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Reporting Period

deletedover 8 years

Why is it that users can file a report up to seven days after the offense has taken place?

It doesn't make sense to me that the time period is that long. It should be reduced to 48 hours at the most.

The only thing that seven days allows someone is the chance to dig into the game records and see if they can get them banned.

Shorter reporting periods will allow users enough time to report offenses but also help to reduce report spam when people find each and every violation a person has committed in the last week.

The reason, though, that we can't just say "Only people in this game can report for violations" is because if there was a game full of friends, they can't break rules and get away with it.

By reducing the time to 48 hours or less, it leaves just enough time to report the violations and also keep out the report trolls who just want to try to get people banned and overuse the system.

Should it change to what OP is saying?
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Yes
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No (why)
deletedover 8 years
Yes, a 7 month old example is perfectly relevant to the now-administration and over-policing report system
over 8 years
Sometimes I'm busy and it actually takes me a long time to remember to think about whether or not I want to appeal a report or something like that. I appealed for a refund 6 days after the original report was closed and got the refund. I had to spend some time thinking about it too. I don't think it's bad, if the deadline is shorter, people would just do what you're saying they'd do in the OP..... faster.
over 8 years
cheating and people on vio leashes are a good exception to the proposed 2 day rule. or OPI/other serious offenses
deletedover 8 years

rutab says

no, yeung. it would get a vio, just like this 5 day old GRS is


wrong. here hipfire = textbook trolling but the vio wasn't given cuz maf didn't care https://epicmafia.com/report/153915 precedent to show you're wrong and i'm right
deletedover 8 years
Thank you Harry
over 8 years
I was going to make a thread about people who report other people's games even though they weren't in the game themselves. Personally, I think it's petty and spiteful, and I am definitely looking to discourage that type of behaviour. I advocate for less strict policing, and less spiteful behaviour in general.

I think reducing it to a 24-48 hour limit is actually a good option to resolve those kinds of issues. I'll have a think on it.
deletedover 8 years
no, yeung. it would get a vio, just like this 5 day old GRS is
deletedover 8 years

rutab says



Imagine jokingly trolling with a couple friends very lightly in a game, and then 6 days later so fluff muffin thinks it's funny to report you for it just because he wants to spite you.



well dude if someone who wasnt in the game reports u for trolling 6 days later it probably wont be a vio. cuz well for trolling u have to be antagonizing someone actually in the game
over 8 years
If it ain't broke
deletedover 8 years
if you get grudge reported for breaking a rule, its your own fault for breaking the rule and you deserve the violation.

by not punishing ppl for breaking rules in these situations you're basically encouraging rule breaking. ppl r gonna think "hmm maybe i can break this rule and no one will care to report me" and when they think wrong and do get reported = more reports = more violations = more bans = bad for site

easy solution to not getting grudge reported = don't break the rule in the first place
deletedover 8 years
@people saying stuff about cheating

Cheating has always been a special case.

I am talking about things like the report I linked, which is a GRS report five days after the fact.

Imagine jokingly trolling with a couple friends very lightly in a game, and then 6 days later so fluff muffin thinks it's funny to report you for it just because he wants to spite you.

48 hours is plenty of time for the correct procedures to be carried about and also to stop the grudge reports and misuse of the system.
over 8 years
I kinda agree with this because people do this to grudge report to get someone they don't like banned for menial things like HC. however, it's useful for cheating and that shouldn't have a limit
deletedover 8 years
r u rly trying to defend people who break rules lmao

yes they should get a grs vio 3 days after cuz especially in a competitive game like the one u moderated it affects round scores. it's the same as grs for a runner, just bc the person wasn't reported it's still a vio and the runner isn't allowed to play their last heart. this is also precedent

also the game you're talking about https://epicmafia.com/report/179531

just bc no one reported it, that doesn't mean nobody cared about it. ya know ppl cud have just not reported bc they thought another person in the game was going to report.

if you read connor's comment in the report

Ryuko 2d 19h
i was thought i just assumed someone else would report it. also, its gotta be 7 days old

clearly implies he did care
deletedover 8 years

Yeung says

there are enough trolls on the site as it is, it's rly good when users who weren't in the game catch other users breaking rules. this punishes the trolls and teaches them not to break the rules again, or if they do decide to keep breaking rules then they get banned and it reduces the number of trolls on the site


Except this only really ever happens when they're going through the games of someone they dislike to purposely get them banned.

For example, should someone really get a GRS 3 days after the fact when no one in the game cared enough to report it? That violation only exists because suicides interrupt the game experience for others, but none of those people felt like reporting it.
deletedover 8 years
there are enough trolls on the site as it is, it's rly good when users who weren't in the game catch other users breaking rules. this punishes the trolls and teaches them not to break the rules again, or if they do decide to keep breaking rules then they get banned and it reduces the number of trolls on the site
deletedover 8 years
it being deleted isn't enough, they should be given a vio too. otherwise they could just keep breaking rules as long as they're not reported by normal users within said time frame
deletedover 8 years

Yeung says

it's not even just cheating. what if you only see opi or x-rated material days after it was posted


Well, either way it would get deleted.
deletedover 8 years
it's not even just cheating. what if you only see opi or x-rated material days after it was posted
over 8 years
I call dibs on CoryinDaSlammer
over 8 years

Kerry says


Jimbei says

In cases of cheating it should have a week but besides that yeah I agree, it seems kinda sketchy to report someone 7 days after the offense is made


in cases of cheating it should be, and currently is, until the games expire


ok, i was going to say something about this but i wasn't positive. yeah, cheating gets a longer time period anyways which is why my post is mostly reflecting on violations in general
deletedover 8 years
it's not report spam if a user is making a bunch of legit reports
over 8 years
em has managed to distract me again
rip
deletedover 8 years
I knew what I was getting into with that report, it was something we were debating so I just bit the bullet on it and forced us to re-evaluate the precedent, as no one else was taking the report. I'm not surprised, nor disappointed, that it was overturned.
over 8 years
report spam isn't really a big enough issue for this to be necessary lmao
over 8 years

Jimbei says

In cases of cheating it should have a week but besides that yeah I agree, it seems kinda sketchy to report someone 7 days after the offense is made


in cases of cheating it should be, and currently is, until the games expire