Epicmafia

Reporting Period

deletedover 8 years

Why is it that users can file a report up to seven days after the offense has taken place?

It doesn't make sense to me that the time period is that long. It should be reduced to 48 hours at the most.

The only thing that seven days allows someone is the chance to dig into the game records and see if they can get them banned.

Shorter reporting periods will allow users enough time to report offenses but also help to reduce report spam when people find each and every violation a person has committed in the last week.

The reason, though, that we can't just say "Only people in this game can report for violations" is because if there was a game full of friends, they can't break rules and get away with it.

By reducing the time to 48 hours or less, it leaves just enough time to report the violations and also keep out the report trolls who just want to try to get people banned and overuse the system.

Should it change to what OP is saying?

Yes

No (why)

denial

over 8 years

roadman says

Edark says

denial says

rutab says

I don't really understand why everyone is so quick to defend people being idiots and going through everyone's games to find things they did wrong and get them banned.

If people actually cared about getting someone banned, they'd do it when the offenses actually took place, and in the end, they would be banned anyways.

It's not like I am suggesting to let everyone off the hook; I am just asking that we find a way to remove spiteful, unnecessary reports that people report just for kicks.

nobody is defending this rutab. nobody thinks that its the correct or right thing to do or that whoever does this is giving epicmafia justice by finding violations to give.

however, there should be nothing stopping them because if users are violating rules, they should be getting violations

Do you think someone should get banned over something no one ingame actually cared about, but that someone found out days later?

He's obviously going to say yes. EpicMafia has been becoming a 'No Fun Permitted' zone for too long now, and I'm sorry to try and prevent that.

yes. my stance is pretty clear. you don't get banned for making one mistake, you get banned for making several.

rutab, also if you think its abuse for somebody to look through somebodys games and find things to report them on in order to get them banned, why don't you think its abuse for the user themself to continually break the rules after being vioed for them?

roadman

over 8 years

Kerry says

if by 'no fun zone' you mean, no breaking rules in ranked games zone, then yes i'm all for a 'no fun zone'

If no one reports anyone, even though a slight rule was broken, and they can just go off and enjoy the next game, why do you want to rain fire and brimstone on their experience? Go and find enjoyment in the things you do, rather than find enjoyment in deconstructing other people's happiness if they're being harmless.

Edark

over 8 years

roadman says

Edark says

denial says

rutab says

I don't really understand why everyone is so quick to defend people being idiots and going through everyone's games to find things they did wrong and get them banned.

If people actually cared about getting someone banned, they'd do it when the offenses actually took place, and in the end, they would be banned anyways.

It's not like I am suggesting to let everyone off the hook; I am just asking that we find a way to remove spiteful, unnecessary reports that people report just for kicks.

nobody is defending this rutab. nobody thinks that its the correct or right thing to do or that whoever does this is giving epicmafia justice by finding violations to give.

however, there should be nothing stopping them because if users are violating rules, they should be getting violations

Do you think someone should get banned over something no one ingame actually cared about, but that someone found out days later?

He's obviously going to say yes. EpicMafia has been becoming a 'No Fun Permitted' zone for too long now, and I'm sorry to try and prevent that.

Cant Roadblock The Roadman

Bumpers

over 8 years

Hey I just realized it has been more than a month without someone asking me to revive or transfer comp lobby. Nice.

Bumpers

over 8 years

roadman says

EpicMafia has been becoming a 'No Fun Permitted' zone for too long now, and I'm sorry to try and prevent that.

It has been that way since /v/ left, only Sandbox and other lobbies kept that going.

Kerry

over 8 years

if by 'no fun zone' you mean, no breaking rules in ranked games zone, then yes i'm all for a 'no fun zone'

roadman

over 8 years

Edark says

denial says

rutab says

I don't really understand why everyone is so quick to defend people being idiots and going through everyone's games to find things they did wrong and get them banned.

If people actually cared about getting someone banned, they'd do it when the offenses actually took place, and in the end, they would be banned anyways.

It's not like I am suggesting to let everyone off the hook; I am just asking that we find a way to remove spiteful, unnecessary reports that people report just for kicks.

nobody is defending this rutab. nobody thinks that its the correct or right thing to do or that whoever does this is giving epicmafia justice by finding violations to give.

however, there should be nothing stopping them because if users are violating rules, they should be getting violations

Do you think someone should get banned over something no one ingame actually cared about, but that someone found out days later?

He's obviously going to say yes. EpicMafia has been becoming a 'No Fun Permitted' zone for too long now, and I'm sorry to try and prevent that.

Edark

over 8 years

If you guys sincerely think people should get violations even if no one ingame cared about the act itself then you're just a bunch of fascists whom care way too much about getting rid of players from a site already suffering from lack of players.

Kerry

over 8 years

frankly if they're close to being banned and continue with their behaviour they certainly do deserve the ban

Edark

over 8 years

denial says

rutab says

I don't really understand why everyone is so quick to defend people being idiots and going through everyone's games to find things they did wrong and get them banned.

If people actually cared about getting someone banned, they'd do it when the offenses actually took place, and in the end, they would be banned anyways.

It's not like I am suggesting to let everyone off the hook; I am just asking that we find a way to remove spiteful, unnecessary reports that people report just for kicks.

nobody is defending this rutab. nobody thinks that its the correct or right thing to do or that whoever does this is giving epicmafia justice by finding violations to give.

however, there should be nothing stopping them because if users are violating rules, they should be getting violations

Do you think someone should get banned over something no one ingame actually cared about, but that someone found out days later?

Kerry

over 8 years

denial says

nobody is defending this rutab. nobody thinks that its the correct or right thing to do or that whoever does this is giving epicmafia justice by finding violations to give.

however, there should be nothing stopping them because if users are violating rules, they should be getting violations

deletedover 8 years

I'd rather people be correct in wanting to report someone rather than it be "who can one-up each other the most" contest by digging through old games to get rid of people you don't like

denial

over 8 years

rutab says

I don't really understand why everyone is so quick to defend people being idiots and going through everyone's games to find things they did wrong and get them banned.

If people actually cared about getting someone banned, they'd do it when the offenses actually took place, and in the end, they would be banned anyways.

It's not like I am suggesting to let everyone off the hook; I am just asking that we find a way to remove spiteful, unnecessary reports that people report just for kicks.

nobody is defending this rutab. nobody thinks that its the correct or right thing to do or that whoever does this is giving epicmafia justice by finding violations to give.

however, there should be nothing stopping them because if users are violating rules, they should be getting violations

deletedover 8 years

Kerry says

i don't understand how you choose to defend someone breaking a rule over someone being salty

Because then people would actually report because the rule was broken instead of to spite the person they're mad at.

One reason is using the system correctly, and the other is abusing it.

Giga13

over 8 years

Connor says

my fav part of this thread is the admin/moderators who wish to downplay rulebreaking as rulebreakers themselves

it's almost like their agena is self-serving

whom exactly may you be referring to other than harrold

roadman

over 8 years

Kerry says

i don't understand how you choose to defend someone breaking a rule over someone being salty

Kerry

over 8 years

i don't understand how you choose to defend someone breaking a rule over someone being salty

Edark

over 8 years

Giga13 says

it's threads like this that make me miss SGR dle9999 and tay

Its allright, my posting wont go anywhere in memory of my fallen comrades

Clair

over 8 years

my fav part of this thread is the admin/moderators who wish to downplay rulebreaking as rulebreakers themselves

it's almost like their agenda is self-serving

deletedover 8 years

I don't really understand why everyone is so quick to defend people being idiots and going through everyone's games to find things they did wrong and get them banned.

If people actually cared about getting someone banned, they'd do it when the offenses actually took place, and in the end, they would be banned anyways.

It's not like I am suggesting to let everyone off the hook; I am just asking that we find a way to remove spiteful, unnecessary reports that people report just for kicks.

Giga13

over 8 years

Vancyon says

Giga13 says

it's threads like this that make me miss SGR dle9999 and tay

tay would literally just post crying baby pictures all day long in complaints threads

i know but other people would feed the sh*tposting and it would be funny

deletedover 8 years

Giga13 says

it's threads like this that make me miss SGR dle9999 and tay

tay would literally just post crying baby pictures all day long in complaints threads

Giga13

over 8 years

it's threads like this that make me miss SGR dle9999 and tay

denial

over 8 years

rutab says

denial says

rutab says

Connor says

rutab says

So then it's the person-who-failed to-report-it's fault.

so you're telling me i have to pretend something mattered to me IN CASE i end up top of the leaderboard?

No, I am saying that, if your argument is to stay consistent, you would report it solely for "enforcing the rules."

Otherwise, you're flip flopping your points.

rutab, but its reality that some people really don't want to bother with getting people violations in order to enforce the rules. at least in connors case, a rule was broken and at least at some point correct enforcement was given to a rule breaker.

was it reported for a righteous reason? no, but at least now somebody breaking a rule got a violation which imo is not a terrible thing

I disagree. If you choose to let it go, then you let it go. Over-policing would be letting it go, and then having someone report it 6-7 days later because it benefits them in that time.

That's not what the report system is for

i think what we really disagree on is the time of a week. its not an eternity.

also, if the rules were 48 hours, i would 100% agree with you that I would say its their fault if they then came back later and tried to report it for a refund at a later point because all of a sudden it became advantageous to them. but i'd rather not let it get to the point where reporting can only happen within 48 hours and give them at least a week of time to come to that judgment.

people are salty about reports. limit the time to 2 days where people will actually find games, but not be able to report them, and even more people will be pissed

yes i am supporting banned/salty users report scrounging to get people banned, because if they were doing stuff they can be reported for, they should be banned

Clair

over 8 years

for those in power to further their desires, clearly