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Why we shouldn't use the R-word

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"Do not call something you don't like "Redacted". By calling something "Redacted", you are essentially saying an undesirable object or event is the same as someone with intellectual, developmental, or physical disabilities. This invalidates feelings and the identities of people with disabilities and puts them in a position where they are used to describe something that is considered to be flawed, useless, or stupid. It also makes YOU look flawed, useless and stupid by using such an uncool term. There are a ton of great words you can use instead to describe things, people, and situations that anger or annoy you.

For example: If something is a bad idea, you can use words such as dense, useless, obtuse, pathetic, or vapid. Don't forget terms like jackass or bonehead. Or make up snappy new insults. Swearing may be okay, but might make you look less impressive.

If someone or something angers you, use words like contemptible, enraging, evil, infuriating, horrible, irrational, rage-inducing. If someone or something is disgusting, try using nasty, gross, foul, nauseating, skeevy, repellent, repulsive, vomitous or terrible instead."

"The historical context of the word is important to know. People with disabilities have been treated poorly, discriminated against, abused, and neglected in the past and even today. Just changing the way you speak and avoiding using the term can make a difference for people with disabilities today and in the future."

"…support the elimination of the derogatory use of the r-word from everyday speech and promote the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual disabilities."

Short video: https://youtu.be/T549VoLca_Q

225 other word substitutes: http://specialchildren.about.com/od/disabilityrights/ss/225-Subsitutes-For-The-R-Word.htm#step2

Reading material: http://www.r-word.org/r-word-effects-of-the-word.aspx

Please keep on-topic or your posts will be deleted.

Is the R-Word acceptable to use? (Please do not vote unless you have read the OP/reading material)
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No
40
Yes
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rutab says


roadman says


rutab says

I, for one, will not let something like diction depict whether or not someone is a jerk. I believe someone can be a jerk for many reasons all compiled into a single Jerk Gene, and using slurs to be overly offensive is one of them.


I believe demonising people over the use of a word is more of a problem.


I agree. It's almost as if people are treating this with as much seriousness as if they were Hitler committing genocide.


HITLERRRRRRR
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roadman says


rutab says

I, for one, will not let something like diction depict whether or not someone is a jerk. I believe someone can be a jerk for many reasons all compiled into a single Jerk Gene, and using slurs to be overly offensive is one of them.


I believe demonising people over the use of a word is more of a problem.


I agree. It's almost as if people are treating this with as much seriousness as if they were Hitler committing genocide.
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roadman says


rutab says

I, for one, will not let something like diction depict whether or not someone is a jerk. I believe someone can be a jerk for many reasons all compiled into a single Jerk Gene, and using slurs to be overly offensive is one of them.


I believe demonising people over the use of a word is more of a problem.


this is exactly it for me by the way, and i dislike when those who choose to not say it believe they have a moral ground above those who don't
over 8 years

AdrenalineMime says

what a dumb way to end an argument. this isn't a conclusion, it's just postponing it till the next adminship

i demand bloodshed


yeah dude me too haha wow yeah...
over 8 years
what a dumb way to end an argument. this isn't a conclusion, it's just postponing it till the next adminship

i demand bloodshed
over 8 years

rutab says

I, for one, will not let something like diction depict whether or not someone is a jerk. I believe someone can be a jerk for many reasons all compiled into a single Jerk Gene, and using slurs to be overly offensive is one of them.


I believe demonising people over the use of a word is more of a problem.
over 8 years
i personally think we should just go back to the stone age where grunting is all we could muster up and no one would get offended bc all grunting is the same
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I, for one, will not let something like diction depict whether or not someone is a jerk. I believe someone can be a jerk for many reasons all compiled into a single Jerk Gene, and using slurs to be overly offensive is one of them.
over 8 years

rutab says


Retti says

let's just leave both parties alone and not bludgeon each other over the head over who's right and wrong


At least around here, it is always going to be this way. The rule will either allow or not allow the use of slurs. Both sides have very passionate beliefs and arguments so whichever way the rule sides with at the time, the opposing side will have a strong and loud voice screaming about why it's wrong and needs to be changed.


I like to watch people stream on Twitch, and pretty much any time I watch people play games, the word is still thrown around as loosely as it has been for years. It's so strange stepping from this environment into that one.

Ultimately, when push comes to shove, people just hate being told to change their stance on things by other people, even if the stance is reasonable.
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Satan says


rutab says

People forget that Freedom of Speech not only covers their right to be hateful, but also the right to disagree and voice why.


freedom of speech does not exist on websites with a "terms of service"

sorry to burst ur bubble


When I said this, I was referencing projectmatt's opinion on why people get so angry when asked to remove the word from their vocabulary. You are mistaken on why I said this.
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Ryuko says


Ryuko says

nah youre a jerk if you understand the OP yet choose to ignore it





this matter does not affect their personal lives so the people you say are being jerks for ignoring either again, practice what is being said or choose to ignore it

them being a jerk is merely your interpretation
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hitler
over 8 years

rutab says

People forget that Freedom of Speech not only covers their right to be hateful, but also the right to disagree and voice why.


freedom of speech does not exist on websites with a "terms of service"

sorry to burst ur bubble
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Retti says

let's just leave both parties alone and not bludgeon each other over the head over who's right and wrong


At least around here, it is always going to be this way. The rule will either allow or not allow the use of slurs. Both sides have very passionate beliefs and arguments so whichever way the rule sides with at the time, the opposing side will have a strong and loud voice screaming about why it's wrong and needs to be changed.
over 8 years

Ryuko says

nah youre a jerk if you understand the OP yet choose to ignore it

over 8 years
What about the episode about the R word? They had a whole episode about it.
over 8 years

Retti says

you'll never find agreement on this and i dont think it's worth creating hostility over a single word. the people you're trying to convince already have or have chosen to not care, which is why you still see people use it


It's basically that episode of South Park where Cartman wants a Wii.
over 8 years

Retti says

you'll never find agreement on this and i dont think it's worth creating hostility over a single word. the people you're trying to convince already have or have chosen to not care, which is why you still see people use it


retti gets it /lock thread
over 8 years

rutab says


Ryuko says


rutab says

Again, I am just playing the Devil's Advocate here


a republican's favourite phrase


I took this as half-joke and half-seriousness so I am choosing to respond like this:

I don't think anyone has actively seen me use slurs so I'd like to think that I am playing Devil's Advocate for real, unless you can provide me with evidence that I do, in fact, use these words.


it was a half joke in that i know you dont use slurs but half serious in that its actually a republicans favourite phrase
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you'll never find agreement on this and i dont think it's worth creating hostility over a single word. the people you're trying to convince already have or have chosen to not care, which is why you still see people use it
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Thanks man
over 8 years
You're a nice guy, Rutab.
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How come, Harry?
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let's just leave both parties alone and not bludgeon each other over the head over who's right and wrong
over 8 years
Over these last few weeks, Rutab is one of my absolute favourite posters on this website.