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Transgendered 6 year Old?

about 9 years

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhx2auSudRf3n6t5b5

A former Texas educator filed a federal discrimination complaint against a learning center in Katy, Texas, after being fired for refusing to address a 6-year-old girl as a transgender boy.The boys parents were a same sex couple

Thoughts? o.O

Was the teacher justified in calling the student a girl
40
No
25
Yes
about 9 years

leo says

hi as one of those Evil Misunderstand Transgenders you all seem to be so afraid of referring to id like to say:

anyone claiming the parents forced it on the child should consider that mental abuse rather than "ha ha just bad parenting" in forcing their child into a gender role. otherwise, guess what?

YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC!

now, you don't want to be transphobic, do you? then maybe shut the hell up and realize hey, not referring to someone what they want to be called is kind of a cruel move! sort of dehumanizing! and you're going but wait i haven't done this then guess what? you're not a part of the problem!

but riley, you may say in anguish, that is totally irrelevant had you just read! oh, then, why does this blanantly transphobic topic exist? why must it be called into question that maybe ignoring what someone idenfites with is kind of cruel? sorry i don't want to go through page of page of more-than-plausible transphobia and just be blunt with you all.

/thread, and also, side note! i knew i was a boy from a very young age. so young it seems as though i was born knowing, while being raised in a totally neutral environment from *my parents*.


This wasn't an audition.
about 9 years

leo says

hi as one of those Evil Misunderstand Transgenders you all seem to be so afraid of referring to id like to say:

anyone claiming the parents forced it on the child should consider that mental abuse rather than "ha ha just bad parenting" in forcing their child into a gender role. otherwise, guess what?

YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC!

now, you don't want to be transphobic, do you? then maybe shut the hell up and realize hey, not referring to someone what they want to be called is kind of a move! sort of dehumanizing! and you're going but wait i haven't done this then guess what? you're not a part of the problem!

but riley, you may say in anguish, that is totally irrelevant had you just read! oh, then, why does this blanantly transphobic topic exist? why must it be called into question that maybe ignoring what someone idenfites with is kind of cruel? sorry i don't want to go through page of page of more-than-plausible transphobia and just be blunt with you all.

/thread, and also, side note! i knew i was a boy from a very young age. so young it seems as though i was born knowing, while being raised in a totally neutral environment from *my parents*.


Can you put something together that makes sense to read?
about 9 years

Fam says


Felons says


Fam says


Felons says

i'm not tryna sound like an ahole or anything, but isn't this one of the issues that people who were against homosexual couples adopting brought up?


You need to delete that one mate lmao


the thread or the post? lol


Both, comparing the parenting abilities of gay vs straight couples is just dumb and ignorant. This whole thread is mute because its about a 6 year old, they can't even do multiplication yet let alone decide their gender and sexual preferences. To be honest we might as well ask them about string theory or some other complicated subject that makes my little ignorant brain hurt.


so what you're saying is i'm right...
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Felons says


Fam says


Felons says

i'm not tryna sound like an ahole or anything, but isn't this one of the issues that people who were against homosexual couples adopting brought up?


You need to delete that one mate lmao


the thread or the post? lol


Both, comparing the parenting abilities of gay vs straight couples is just dumb and ignorant. This whole thread is mute because its about a 6 year old, they can't even do multiplication yet let alone decide their gender and sexual preferences. To be honest we might as well ask them about string theory or some other complicated subject that makes my little ignorant brain hurt.
about 9 years
hi as one of those Evil Misunderstand Transgenders you all seem to be so afraid of referring to id like to say:

anyone claiming the parents forced it on the child should consider that mental abuse rather than "ha ha just bad parenting" in forcing their child into a gender role. otherwise, guess what?

YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC!

now, you don't want to be transphobic, do you? then maybe shut the hell up and realize hey, not referring to someone what they want to be called is kind of a cruel move! sort of dehumanizing! and you're going but wait i haven't done this then guess what? you're not a part of the problem!

but riley, you may say in anguish, that is totally irrelevant had you just read! oh, then, why does this blanantly transphobic topic exist? why must it be called into question that maybe ignoring what someone idenfites with is kind of cruel? sorry i don't want to go through page of page of more-than-plausible transphobia and just be blunt with you all.

/thread, and also, side note! i knew i was a boy from a very young age. so young it seems as though i was born knowing, while being raised in a totally neutral environment from *my parents*.
about 9 years
the 6 year old may not know but their parents would
about 9 years
I want everyone who voted no and is seriously trying to tell me that it isn't the parents who are pushing the gender on the child to do the following:


Go to any 6 year old child you know

Ask them what gender they are. When they give you an answer ask them how they know and I assure you the answer will be "because Mommy told me"
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Stragger says

Another matter that people seem to forget is how modern politics have made a soapbox of out transgender people and gender dysphoria and that's bad news bears


Let's talk about this, people who voted no
about 9 years

angelic says


roadman says


angelic says


roadman says


angelic says

i don't see why any parents would support their child as identifying as transgender unless they are supporting their childs decisions, knowing the discrimination the kid will surely receive

i knew i was a girl by age 4 or 5. i refused to wear anything but dresses (biologically a girl too but yeah


How the hell can you even compare transgender to knowing you're a girl, when in fact, you are a girl?


I think transgender children also know theyre not a girl or not a boy and no one can possibly understand unless in that situation


How can you ever know that without being transgender yourself?


I agree. i cant relate to the incredibly painful and often lifethreatening experience of transgender people, but I can't imagine the majority of them would choose to change their gender knowing the discrimination they will face without feeling the opposite gender. I dont think cidgender people can possibly put themselves in their shoes because its not something we understand.

if its for another reason i think thats ok too but.


When I was 6, I was listening to Michael Jackson and tried to copy the way that he danced. I would say that it was one of the biggest influences in my life. It was information that was handed to me and I embraced it. In the same way, if you start giving a kid insight into the complexities of being transgendered, they're going to embrace that information too and stipulate irrational, assuming notions about their own identification. It's dangerous and that type of awareness should never be injected into the mind of a child.

I can't believe anyone would say otherwise. What a stupid world we live in.
about 9 years
i cant relate to the incredibly painful and often lifethreatening experience of ebola
about 9 years
if i was a teacher and called a girl a girl and she told me she was a boy i would just address her as a boy i won't say "oh yeah? let me see your birth certificate"
that doesn't seem very difficult
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Another matter that people seem to forget is how modern politics have made a soapbox of out transgender people and gender dysphoria and that's bad news bears
about 9 years
Holy crap this 6 year old seems to be smarter than me lmao
about 9 years

angelic says


roadman says


angelic says


roadman says


angelic says

i don't see why any parents would support their child as identifying as transgender unless they are supporting their childs decisions, knowing the discrimination the kid will surely receive

i knew i was a girl by age 4 or 5. i refused to wear anything but dresses (biologically a girl too but yeah


How the hell can you even compare transgender to knowing you're a girl, when in fact, you are a girl?


I think transgender children also know theyre not a girl or not a boy and no one can possibly understand unless in that situation


How can you ever know that without being transgender yourself?


I agree. i cant relate to the incredibly painful and often lifethreatening experience of transgender people, but I can't imagine the majority of them would choose to change their gender knowing the discrimination they will face without feeling the opposite gender. I dont think cidgender people can possibly put themselves in their shoes because its not something we understand.

if its for another reason i think thats ok too but.


so wait... the SIX year old knew the discrimination they will face without feeling the opposite gender.
about 9 years

roadman says


angelic says


roadman says


angelic says

i don't see why any parents would support their child as identifying as transgender unless they are supporting their childs decisions, knowing the discrimination the kid will surely receive

i knew i was a girl by age 4 or 5. i refused to wear anything but dresses (biologically a girl too but yeah


How the hell can you even compare transgender to knowing you're a girl, when in fact, you are a girl?


I think transgender children also know theyre not a girl or not a boy and no one can possibly understand unless in that situation


How can you ever know that without being transgender yourself?


I agree. i cant relate to the incredibly painful and often lifethreatening experience of transgender people, but I can't imagine the majority of them would choose to change their gender knowing the discrimination they will face without feeling the opposite gender. I dont think cisgender people can possibly put themselves in their shoes because its not something we understand.

if its for another reason i think thats ok too but.
about 9 years
first off this is probably the worst site to even mention anything even close to controversial on. secondly i am still going to post because i can't help myself....

I had to do a paper on transgender issues last semester. One of them being that sometimes parents can be too open-minded to the point where they will stick a label onto their child. I wouldn't necessarily call this "bad parenting", it's hard to be a perfect parent. They could be doing this to just try and do anything to help their child come to terms with who they are, and at an early age if they believe that is possible. And if they are truly good parents if the child makes up/changes their mind about their gender or sexuality or religious preference or whatever then they will support them in that too. It's really tricky to discern whether or not a 6 year old's feelings about themselves can really be taken seriously or not. Mind you sometimes people go through half of their lives until they realize that they want to be a different gender (and that is a fully developed brain).

The question really isn't about whether the parents can label their child like that or if the child's feelings are at all serious. The question is "Is the teacher justified", and no I don't think they are. She said it herself, a lot of her refusal was based on her beliefs, if anything she could have talked to the parents about it, and tried to understand.
about 9 years

Fam says


Felons says

i'm not tryna sound like an ahole or anything, but isn't this one of the issues that people who were against homosexual couples adopting brought up?


You need to delete that one mate lmao


the thread or the post? lol
about 9 years
Those nights where I would lay restlessly staring outside my window, hoping the cruel social shackles that afflict our world would accept me.
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Felons says

i'm not tryna sound like an ahole or anything, but isn't this one of the issues that people who were against homosexual couples adopting brought up?


You need to delete that one mate lmao
about 9 years
I knew my gender identity when I was 6.
about 9 years
like this exact same scenario.
about 9 years

Felons says


angelic says

Felons im going to assume that the child was treated as a girl because born a girl but their inclinations toward masculine habits and happiness in being identified that way is why they want to identify as a male

parents pushing a gender on a child is an entirely different scenario


They

Are

6

Years

Old


so was i when i started having crushes on the opposite gender and knowing my gender identity. i mean not EVERYONE knows but it is possible for a child to know

and maybe theyll change their mind later

and thats ok =) be who u want to be
about 9 years
i'm not tryna sound like an ahole or anything, but isn't this one of the issues that people who were against homosexual couples adopting brought up?
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angelic says


roadman says


angelic says

i don't see why any parents would support their child as identifying as transgender unless they are supporting their childs decisions, knowing the discrimination the kid will surely receive

i knew i was a girl by age 4 or 5. i refused to wear anything but dresses (biologically a girl too but yeah


How the hell can you even compare transgender to knowing you're a girl, when in fact, you are a girl?


I think transgender children also know theyre not a girl or not a boy and no one can possibly understand unless in that situation


I'm pretty sure i wanted to be aquaman more then anything when i was 6, my parents repressed me, now i bear these emotional wounds only alcohol can cure.
about 9 years

angelic says


roadman says


angelic says

i don't see why any parents would support their child as identifying as transgender unless they are supporting their childs decisions, knowing the discrimination the kid will surely receive

i knew i was a girl by age 4 or 5. i refused to wear anything but dresses (biologically a girl too but yeah


How the hell can you even compare transgender to knowing you're a girl, when in fact, you are a girl?


I think transgender children also know theyre not a girl or not a boy and no one can possibly understand unless in that situation


How can you ever know that without being transgender yourself?