Epicmafia

almost 10 years

leo says

Felons says

pereking says

Felons says

pereking says

it doesn't really matter if the kid can or can't decide their gender, transgender people are real and exist. it is not up to the teacher to decide if the kid is transgendered or not and as long as the kid is serious about being addressed by the other gender the teacher should respect their wishes

but it's up to the parents to assign a gender to the kid?

it's up to the kid

so if the kid self identified as a pear would the teacher have to call the kid a pear?

otherkin is way different from gender identity.

( not to make a debate on that too, but they aren't comparable )

'UCKIN LOL!

cub

almost 10 years

funny identity memes dudes keep up the several-year-long work

deletedalmost 10 years

mindful says

Think about it this way: At what age can you make the determination that you're not transgender? Most cis children, and most cis adults as well, have probably put absolutely zero thought into whether they might actually be another gender, whether their current gender is really the best thing for them, and whether they're really prepared to allow their body to continue irreversibly masculinizing or feminizing itself.

Trans people put a lot of thought into these questions - particularly a child precocious enough to be able to articulate what she's experiencing at such an early age.

So why exactly is it that we would put any more stock in how cis people feel about their genders, when trans people are the ones who've actually done their homework on it all?

Cis people just stumble into their genders, merely because being cis is common. They just happen to be right about their gender, not thanks to any effort on their part.

Why is it that we're so prepared to accept that all children are cis and straight by default, yet when a child declares they're trans or gay, this somehow requires some higher standard of proof? What makes you so sure any child knows they're cis or straight?

Letting yourself develop in a certain gendered way without social or medical changes is just as much of a choice as transitioning; it's not any less deserving of scrutiny as a decision merely because it's the default that happens without any conscious intervention.

Go outside

alexicon

almost 10 years

parents push on their child bein their biological gender since 1855 and u dont attack them like this 4 that HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST

in all seriousness tho the kid isnt asking for a sex change at age 6 he just want to be called a boy

how u feel if he start self harming bc he cant be himself cuz u all jerks HOW U FEEL THEN JUST LET HIM LIVE HIS LIFE HE AINT HURTING U

JasonCone

almost 10 years

mindful says

Think about it this way: At what age can you make the determination that you're not transgender? Most cis children, and most cis adults as well, have probably put absolutely zero thought into whether they might actually be another gender, whether their current gender is really the best thing for them, and whether they're really prepared to allow their body to continue irreversibly masculinizing or feminizing itself.

Trans people put a lot of thought into these questions - particularly a child precocious enough to be able to articulate what she's experiencing at such an early age.

So why exactly is it that we would put any more stock in how cis people feel about their genders, when trans people are the ones who've actually done their homework on it all?

Cis people just stumble into their genders, merely because being cis is common. They just happen to be right about their gender, not thanks to any effort on their part.

Why is it that we're so prepared to accept that all children are cis and straight by default, yet when a child declares they're trans or gay, this somehow requires some higher standard of proof? What makes you so sure any child knows they're cis or straight?

Letting yourself develop in a certain gendered way without social or medical changes is just as much of a choice as transitioning; it's not any less deserving of scrutiny as a decision merely because it's the default that happens without any conscious intervention.

you said the word cis a lot, can we use the right word "NORMAL"

roadman

almost 10 years

Shamzy says

This type of sh** gets me angry I swear.. How do you expect a 6 year old to determine that they want a sex change... you really think a 6 year old is thinking about switching his/her sexuality??

I'm not saying its "wrong" to want to do that but the kid is SIX... let that sink in before you morons talk about equality and ignorance..

Edit: On top of that this kid is raised by two dads?... I'm sure they were influenced a lot by them which is why they (the kid) believes they want a sex change... not brainwashing or w.e but just influenced by their parents.. so they're not deciding this for themselves...

Also notice how I'm saying "kid" repeatedly.

This has nothing to do with the same sex parents Shamzy. Jog on son.

Felons

almost 10 years

leo says

Felons says

leo says

Felons says

If the same 6 year old kid went to school saying I hate black people you all would agree that it isn't the childs own opinion on their racism, instead it was something they most likely than not learned from their parents.

Much like this transgender identity. At the age of 6 you're incredibly impressionable, if your parents are telling you that you're an XYZ at the age of 6 you're going to believe you're an XYZ

hey, i used to play games believing i was an animal or a mermaid or some and my dad encouraged me to mess around.

but at school and after playtime? i knew i wasn't any of those. i knew i was a boy!

shut up, and nobody cares.

cool, were you 6? and based off your post on page 5 you do.

if you're going to claim me arguing on the basis you're being a transphobic jerk is me caring, then i guess you got me there.

and yes, i was around that age. kids have borders between imagination and reality.

have i once said in this thread that I hate transexual people? Or did I say I don't think a 6 year old child can tell themselves what gender they are.

Let's allow children to give themselves a gender when they are old enough to walk themselves to school.

deletedalmost 10 years

Felons says

pereking says

Felons says

pereking says

it doesn't really matter if the kid can or can't decide their gender, transgender people are real and exist. it is not up to the teacher to decide if the kid is transgendered or not and as long as the kid is serious about being addressed by the other gender the teacher should respect their wishes

but it's up to the parents to assign a gender to the kid?

it's up to the kid

so if the kid self identified as a pear would the teacher have to call the kid a pear?

How would the pear be described with a suffix if they had no gender? Answer that liberals

deletedalmost 10 years

Think about it this way: At what age can you make the determination that you're not transgender? Most cis children, and most cis adults as well, have probably put absolutely zero thought into whether they might actually be another gender, whether their current gender is really the best thing for them, and whether they're really prepared to allow their body to continue irreversibly masculinizing or feminizing itself.

Trans people put a lot of thought into these questions - particularly a child precocious enough to be able to articulate what she's experiencing at such an early age.

So why exactly is it that we would put any more stock in how cis people feel about their genders, when trans people are the ones who've actually done their homework on it all?

Cis people just stumble into their genders, merely because being cis is common. They just happen to be right about their gender, not thanks to any effort on their part.

Why is it that we're so prepared to accept that all children are cis and straight by default, yet when a child declares they're trans or gay, this somehow requires some higher standard of proof? What makes you so sure any child knows they're cis or straight?

Letting yourself develop in a certain gendered way without social or medical changes is just as much of a choice as transitioning; it's not any less deserving of scrutiny as a decision merely because it's the default that happens without any conscious intervention.

JasonCone

almost 10 years

Felons says

pereking says

Felons says

pereking says

it doesn't really matter if the kid can or can't decide their gender, transgender people are real and exist. it is not up to the teacher to decide if the kid is transgendered or not and as long as the kid is serious about being addressed by the other gender the teacher should respect their wishes

but it's up to the parents to assign a gender to the kid?

it's up to the kid

so if the kid self identified as a pear would the teacher have to call the kid a pear?

I identify as a panda with 2 chainsaws for hands

leo

almost 10 years

Felons says

pereking says

Felons says

pereking says

it doesn't really matter if the kid can or can't decide their gender, transgender people are real and exist. it is not up to the teacher to decide if the kid is transgendered or not and as long as the kid is serious about being addressed by the other gender the teacher should respect their wishes

but it's up to the parents to assign a gender to the kid?

it's up to the kid

so if the kid self identified as a pear would the teacher have to call the kid a pear?

otherkin is way different from gender identity.

( not to make a debate on that too, but they aren't comparable )

Felons

almost 10 years

pereking says

Felons says

pereking says

it doesn't really matter if the kid can or can't decide their gender, transgender people are real and exist. it is not up to the teacher to decide if the kid is transgendered or not and as long as the kid is serious about being addressed by the other gender the teacher should respect their wishes

but it's up to the parents to assign a gender to the kid?

it's up to the kid

so if the kid self identified as a pear would the teacher have to call the kid a pear?

JasonCone

almost 10 years

but my opinion on this is the teacher should of just called him a boy and let it be

Shamzy

almost 10 years

This type of sh** gets me angry I swear.. How do you expect a 6 year old to determine that they want a sex change... you really think a 6 year old is thinking about switching his/her sexuality??

I'm not saying its "wrong" to want to do that but the kid is SIX... let that sink in before you morons talk about equality and ignorance..

Edit: On top of that this kid is raised by two dads?... I'm sure they were influenced a lot by them which is why they (the kid) believes they want a sex change... not brainwashing or w.e but just influenced by their parents.. so they're not deciding this for themselves...

Also notice how I'm saying "kid" repeatedly.

JasonCone

almost 10 years

alexicon says

i feel like the people voting yes are trolling nvm how could u possible not let some1 identify how they want!!!

heres my problem with it. I bet the parents of the girl/boy are pushing that he/she is trans. I doubt the little boygirl has any idea what he/she even wants and thats my problem. Lets just stick with SCIENCE and say pecker=boy bigV=girl

deletedalmost 10 years

alexicon says

i feel like the people voting yes are trolling nvm how could u possible not let some1 identify how they want!!!

text me

leo

almost 10 years

Felons says

leo says

Felons says

If the same 6 year old kid went to school saying I hate black people you all would agree that it isn't the childs own opinion on their racism, instead it was something they most likely than not learned from their parents.

Much like this transgender identity. At the age of 6 you're incredibly impressionable, if your parents are telling you that you're an XYZ at the age of 6 you're going to believe you're an XYZ

hey, i used to play games believing i was an animal or a mermaid or some and my dad encouraged me to mess around.

but at school and after playtime? i knew i wasn't any of those. i knew i was a boy!

shut up, and nobody cares.

cool, were you 6? and based off your post on page 5 you do.

if you're going to claim me arguing on the basis you're being a transphobic jerk is me caring, then i guess you got me there.

and yes, i was around that age. kids have borders between imagination and reality.

Felons

almost 10 years

alexicon says

i feel like the people voting yes are trolling nvm how could u possible not let some1 identify how they want!!!

agreed, how could you not tell a 6 year old child who is unsure of what gender even is and why they're x gender that they're the gender they were born with.

roadman

almost 10 years

Devante, alexicon is quite pretty. You should probably start changing your views so that you can stay on her good side.

pereking

almost 10 years

Felons says

pereking says

it doesn't really matter if the kid can or can't decide their gender, transgender people are real and exist. it is not up to the teacher to decide if the kid is transgendered or not and as long as the kid is serious about being addressed by the other gender the teacher should respect their wishes

but it's up to the parents to assign a gender to the kid?

it's up to the kid

Shamzy

almost 10 years

alexicon says

i feel like the people voting yes are trolling nvm how could u possible not let some1 identify how they want!!!

... because they're 6.

Felons

almost 10 years

leo says

Felons says

If the same 6 year old kid went to school saying I hate black people you all would agree that it isn't the childs own opinion on their racism, instead it was something they most likely than not learned from their parents.

Much like this transgender identity. At the age of 6 you're incredibly impressionable, if your parents are telling you that you're an XYZ at the age of 6 you're going to believe you're an XYZ

hey, i used to play games believing i was an animal or a mermaid or some and my dad encouraged me to mess around.

but at school and after playtime? i knew i wasn't any of those. i knew i was a boy!

shut up, and nobody cares.

cool, were you 6? and based off your post on page 5 you do.

alexicon

almost 10 years

i feel like the people voting yes are trolling nvm how could u possible not let some1 identify how they want!!!

Felons

almost 10 years

cyberbully says

Felons says

If the same 6 year old kid went to school saying I hate black people you all would agree that it isn't the childs own opinion on their racism, instead it was something they most likely than not learned from their parents.

Much like this transgender identity. At the age of 6 you're incredibly impressionable, if your parents are telling you that you're an XYZ at the age of 6 you're going to believe you're an XYZ

so people won't be gay if parents tell them they're straight

you don't develop hormones until you're around 8-16.

so you wouldn't know you're either until those ages, according to science of course .

Transgendered 6 year Old?