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Anyone who isn't a closed minded Neanderthal have an argument to make?

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Belovedprincess

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Grim says


belovedprincess says


Grim says


belovedprincess says

sonse, that paradox takes place in the real world. those are easily achievable real world events. all they'd require was a dumbass to make the error of forecasting expectation.


Right dude, but that's not the paradox. It's not supposed to be the real world. The problem takes place in a hypothetical universe where all of the possible days are eliminated automatically. Do you get it now?


i get that ur a complete imbecile. the days are eliminated by erroneous real-world logic, not because some different universe's rules say so


That's not the problem. What you're saying has nothing to do with the paradox.


lol at u bro
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belovedprincess says


Grim says


belovedprincess says

sonse, that paradox takes place in the real world. those are easily achievable real world events. all they'd require was a dumbass to make the error of forecasting expectation.


Right dude, but that's not the paradox. It's not supposed to be the real world. The problem takes place in a hypothetical universe where all of the possible days are eliminated automatically. Do you get it now?


i get that ur a complete imbecile. the days are eliminated by erroneous real-world logic, not because some different universe's rules say so


That's not the problem. What you're saying has nothing to do with the paradox.
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Monk says


belovedprincess says

HE CAN BE KILLED BEFORE EVER MAKING IT TO THURSDAY TO EXPECT FRIDAY, MONK, U BLITHERING IMBECILE. IT IS A PROBLEM OF FORECASTING EXPECTATION. IF HE CAN NEVER GET TO THURSDAY TO COMPLETELY RULE OUT FRIDAY, THEN HE CAN'T RULE OUT ANY DAY.


WHAT THE UFCK DUDE IF HE IS KILLED BEFORE THURSDAY, THE NGUESS WHAT< HE WASNT KILLED ON FRIDAY SO ITS STILL OBVIOUSLY RULED OUT LOL MAN


on wednesday, can he expect he will be killed friday? does he have any reason, like, say, that friday is the last day between wednesday and the end of the week? the problem breaks come thursday night playing the expectation of dying within the week against the expectation of not knowing the day for sure, but on any other day he can be killed
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the actual origin of the book is from the original timeline where the author of Hamlet wrote the book by himself.
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xxerox says


Monk says

xxerox:

Imagine one day you wake up and someone from the future hands you a novel and tells you to publish it as your own. Then, in the future, the future dude is born and finds the novel that you published. He reads it, and decides to go back in time and give it to you.

Ok, who does the "theory of the first" favor with the question worded this way?


Well, here is another paradox. You dont know what time-line is this. First time line, where the original accident occurs ( Time traveler gives you the book) , or one of the many time-lines after that where the time traveler gives you the book from a time-line where the same occurs.


Basically what I'm trying to say is that the world I proposed makes no sense since there is no actual origin of the book. This is the kind of timetravel nonsense that I was trying to illustrate I guess. Time travel is silly dawg
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And from this comes yet another paradox. If that future man decide to not give Hamlet to the outher, what will happen?

If its an original timeline, nothing happens. If its a branched timeline, the time untill the point of him giving Hamlet to the owner, will cease to exist, returning the entire branch back to the original.
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belovedprincess says

HE CAN BE KILLED BEFORE EVER MAKING IT TO THURSDAY TO EXPECT FRIDAY, MONK, U BLITHERING IMBECILE. IT IS A PROBLEM OF FORECASTING EXPECTATION. IF HE CAN NEVER GET TO THURSDAY TO COMPLETELY RULE OUT FRIDAY, THEN HE CAN'T RULE OUT ANY DAY.


WHAT THE UFCK DUDE IF HE IS KILLED BEFORE THURSDAY, THE NGUESS WHAT< HE WASNT KILLED ON FRIDAY SO ITS STILL OBVIOUSLY RULED OUT LOL MAN
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the trick is that he is killed before he can rule out friday
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look, u cannot rule out the friday on f*cking sunday lmfao. there is no absolute expectation that it will be friday on sunday. only on thursday, if he is still alive, can he have that expectation. forecasted expectation =/= real expectation. not difficult lmfao
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HE CAN BE KILLED BEFORE EVER MAKING IT TO THURSDAY TO EXPECT FRIDAY, MONK, U BLITHERING IMBECILE. IT IS A PROBLEM OF FORECASTING EXPECTATION. IF HE CAN NEVER GET TO THURSDAY TO COMPLETELY RULE OUT FRIDAY, THEN HE CAN'T RULE OUT ANY DAY.
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The Theory of the first, always favours the original act, where everything begins, before any time travel to be involved. Seting a starting point to series of continious effects.

Every time the guy from the future goes back in time and gives it to the author of Hamlet, he branches the universe yet again for infinity amount of times.
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Monk says

xxerox:

Imagine one day you wake up and someone from the future hands you a novel and tells you to publish it as your own. Then, in the future, the future dude is born and finds the novel that you published. He reads it, and decides to go back in time and give it to you.

Ok, who does the "theory of the first" favor with the question worded this way?


Well, here is another paradox. You dont know what time-line is this. First time line, where the original accident occurs ( Time traveler gives you the book) , or one of the many time-lines after that where the time traveler gives you the book from a time-line where the same occurs.
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Grim says


belovedprincess says

sonse, that paradox takes place in the real world. those are easily achievable real world events. all they'd require was a dumbass to make the error of forecasting expectation.


Right dude, but that's not the paradox. It's not supposed to be the real world. The problem takes place in a hypothetical universe where all of the possible days are eliminated automatically. Do you get it now?


i get that ur a complete imbecile. the days are eliminated by erroneous real-world logic, not because some different universe's rules say so
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belovedprincess says


Monk says

He doesn't need the "power to expect things" beyond a basic human's ability, provided the executioner's word is true, which is the basic assumption for the whole problem. The problem is, you are imbuing the warden with the ability to break his own rules.


what does this even mean? he died on the wednesday and didn't expect it, all parameters satisfied. there's no paradox, instead it's a trick of forecasting expectation.

if u rule out the friday on a monday, then u can be killed on the friday and not have expected it on the monday. ONLY. ON. THE. THURSDAY. NIGHT. CAN. FRIDAY. REALLY. BE. RULED. OUT. LMFAO.




IF BY THURSDAY HE CAN RULE OUT FRIDAY, THEN SINCE •••THURDAY ALWAYS COMES BEFORE FRIDAY••• THERE IS NO WAY HE CAN BE SURPRSIED ON FRIDAY SO EVEN ON MONDAY, HE KNOWS IT CANNOT BE FRIDAY. JESUS DUDE
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belovedprincess says

sonse, that paradox takes place in the real world. those are easily achievable real world events. all they'd require was a dumbass to make the error of forecasting expectation.


Right dude, but that's not the paradox. It's not supposed to be the real world. The problem takes place in a hypothetical universe where all of the possible days are eliminated automatically. Do you get it now?
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xxerox:

Imagine one day you wake up and someone from the future hands you a novel and tells you to publish it as your own. Then, in the future, the future dude is born and finds the novel that you published. He reads it, and decides to go back in time and give it to you.

Ok, who does the "theory of the first" favor with the question worded this way?
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sonse, that paradox takes place in the real world. those are easily achievable real world events. all they'd require was a dumbass to make the error of forecasting expectation.
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The paradox is that solving the problem renders the problem unsolvable. He solved the problem, sirius. Objectively. You're trying to solve an entirely different problem
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Original is where Hamlet is writen. He goes back in time, and in such gives it to the author of Hamlet, thus branching the set time-line of Hamlet being written on its own, setting a new timeline, where Hamlet is written by a future copy of it, setting it as a new original for this set timeline. Which means that it would not have existed if Hamlet was not writen by its original author to begin with. To erase a timeline and set a new one, there must always be a starting point.
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Monk says

He doesn't need the "power to expect things" beyond a basic human's ability, provided the executioner's word is true, which is the basic assumption for the whole problem. The problem is, you are imbuing the warden with the ability to break his own rules.


what does this even mean? he died on the wednesday and didn't expect it, all parameters satisfied. there's no paradox, instead it's a trick of forecasting expectation.

if u rule out the friday on a monday, then u can be killed on the friday and not have expected it on the monday. ONLY. ON. THE. THURSDAY. NIGHT. CAN. FRIDAY. REALLY. BE. RULED. OUT. LMFAO.
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Sirius the world this Paradox takes place in is not the real world. Do you get it? If it is in the rules, it is true by default.
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xxerox says


TheeCake says



Therefore, because there are an infinite number of points Achilles must reach where the tortoise has already been, he can never overtake the tortoise


This is wrong. It implies that it takes an infinite amount of time to traverse an infinite amount of points, but it doesn't.


Are you saying the points are finity ?


Not sure what you mean
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sonse, ur just a joke bro. it's embarrassing tbh
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He doesn't need the "power to expect things" beyond a basic human's ability, provided the executioner's word is true, which is the basic assumption for the whole problem. The problem is, you are imbuing the warden with the ability to break his own rules.
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Monk says

"Theory of the first" only works if timelines branch. If time is just one timeline, then since the "original" timeline is overwritten, but is never saved, the "new" cause is the true original cause after it happens from the future. Confused? Yes, it makes no sense and timetravel is truly nonsensical, that is probably why.


Nope. The moment the past is changed, the timeline is branched. There can be only 1 original.