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Newcomb's Paradox

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Anyone who isn't a closed minded Neanderthal have an argument to make?

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Belovedprincess

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TheeCake
about 9 years

belovedprincess says


TheeCake says

Its predicting whether you will take both boxes or not.


and the prediction defines ur actions 999 times out of 1000, right? therefore, ur actions define ur win 999 times out of 1000. ur actions and the prediction are a two-way street


edit: lemme rephrase

it's success rate in the past has been very very very high, but the chances are not exactly known
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Sirius why aren't you speaking at Harvard, since you solved this PARADOX and all
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TheeCake says

yeah, its predicting your actions, not only your thoughts


is this supposed to mean something?
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Your argument is pretty good, Sirius. Just like the other one
TheeCake
about 9 years
yeah, its predicting your actions, not only your thoughts
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Grim says

Numbers do come into it, actually. But you wouldn't know that, because you're uneducated about it


ur an idiot
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TheeCake says

Its predicting whether you will take both boxes or not.


and the prediction defines ur actions 999 times out of 1000, right? therefore, ur actions define ur win 999 times out of 1000. ur actions and the prediction are a two-way street
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Numbers do come into it, actually. But you wouldn't know that, because you're uneducated about it
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there's no need of a mathematical proof. numbers don't come into it. it's all just a question of defining the terms.

if the predictor can predict ur actions in the room, then what u choose will win u exactly what it was foretold it would win u 999 times out of 1000

if the predictor cannot predict ur actions in the room, but only ur thoughts of what you'd pick outside it up to some certain point, like just entering the room or something (lol)? ...then the question is dumb as heck lmao..
TheeCake
about 9 years
Its predicting whether you will take both boxes or not.
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I defer to people who know more than me about something. Sorry for not being a megalomaniac.
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TheeCake says

yeah


so what's he predicting then? just what u were thinking before u entered the room? wouldn't u be thinking of taking both boxes trying to scam him etc. etc. etc.? no?

such a dumb question
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There are mathematical proofs in favor of both arguments but you still think you're smarter. Let's see your mathematical proof, Sirius. Draw one up.
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Grim says

Sirius when you have a PHD I'd be willing to sit and listen to your laughably bad argument, but by then your argument will have changed because you will have had to research it


i'm embarrassed for u that ur such a bitchboy to authority tbh sonse
TheeCake
about 9 years
yeah
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TheeCake says


Strider says

in theory, if the predictor is as good as they say they are, conforming to a mindset that picking box B only will allow you to gain $1,000,000, and since conforming to that mindset is necessary, you will follow through with it

the mafia are not a brain-scanning predictor so it's irrelevant


But once you are in the room, it doesn't matter. If you want to maximize your winnings, you take both boxes.


why doesn't it matter once ur in the room? the predictor can't predict what u do after u enter the room?
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Sirius when you have a PHD I'd be willing to sit and listen to your laughably bad argument, but by then your argument will have changed because you will have had to research it
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u were nothing but a wall of fallacies and quoting impenetrable academic verbosity in that thread, sonse. that's not any sort of way to make an argument. if ur going to make one, make one. otherwise shut up. i made one.

also anselm was another grade-A clown. again, his whole argument is GIGO.

i can imagine the perfect banana. ah, but a quality of the perfect banana should be that it exists in my hand right now, because existence is a quality of perfection. qed, the perfect banana is real.

oh, wait... did i drop it? hold on i can't find the banana
TheeCake
about 9 years

Strider says

in theory, if the predictor is as good as they say they are, conforming to a mindset that picking box B only will allow you to gain $1,000,000, and since conforming to that mindset is necessary, you will follow through with it

the mafia are not a brain-scanning predictor so it's irrelevant


But once you are in the room, it doesn't matter. If you want to maximize your winnings, you take both boxes.
Strider
about 9 years
both decisions are rational, unless you're intending on roping in a bunch of unsuspecting forum posters to see them butt heads, then go ahead i guess
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Strider says

there's nothing left to discuss


LMFAO
Strider
about 9 years
there's nothing left to discuss
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First!