deletedabout 9 years

Anyone who isn't a closed minded Neanderthal have an argument to make?

Complete idiots list:

Belovedprincess

Lilin

deletedabout 9 years

lilin says


Grim says

There's another paradox that's pretty interesting, Sirius.

It's called Hanging Man's Paradox.

A man is sentenced by a Judge on Sunday, and told that he would be hung during the next business week, but the day would be on a day he wouldn't expect.

The man, sitting in his cell, pondered this. He realized that he could not be hung on Friday, because it would be the last possible day and he would expect it. Once Friday was eliminated he could also eliminate Thursday, because that would be the last possible day and he would expect it. And so forth. The man became confident that he could not possibly be hung, He was hung on Wednesday, and he didn't expect a god damned thing.


That's you right now Sirius. You're the Hanging Man


if he suspected every day, he wouldn't suspect a day he would suspect


Yes, therein lies the paradox
deletedabout 9 years
Se7en is the story of an amazing mafia player throwing the game
deletedabout 9 years

Grim says

There's another paradox that's pretty interesting, Sirius.

It's called Hanging Man's Paradox.

A man is sentenced by a Judge on Sunday, and told that he would be hung during the next business week, but the day would be on a day he wouldn't expect.

The man, sitting in his cell, pondered this. He realized that he could not be hung on Friday, because it would be the last possible day and he would expect it. Once Friday was eliminated he could also eliminate Thursday, because that would be the last possible day and he would expect it. And so forth. The man became confident that he could not possibly be hung, He was hung on Wednesday, and he didn't expect a god damned thing.


That's you right now Sirius. You're the Hanging Man


if he suspected every day, he wouldn't suspect a day he would suspect
deletedabout 9 years
She begged for her life detective. She begged for her life, and the life of the baby inside her. Oh, you didn't know did you.
deletedabout 9 years
Become Vengeance, David. Become..... Wrath.,
deletedabout 9 years
actually i got that one right too. the answer is in fact that forecasted expectation =/= actual expectation. on monday he doesn't know worth a damn if he'll be executed friday. it's only on thursday he can actually exclude friday.
deletedabout 9 years

Grim says


lilin says

what is in box A?

i feel like it is best to choose A and B because getting something is guaranteed if there is something in box A, and 1 million dollars isn't enough to live on


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cmqwbZa6_w

"What's in the box?"


i'm pretty sure his wife's head is in the box
deletedabout 9 years

lilin says

what is in box A?

i feel like it is best to choose A and B because getting something is guaranteed if there is something in box A, and 1 million dollars isn't enough to live on


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cmqwbZa6_w

"What's in the box?"
deletedabout 9 years
what is in box A?

i feel like it is best to choose A and B because getting something is guaranteed if there is something in box A, and 1 million dollars isn't enough to live on
about 9 years
Btw, i am actively helping the human race and will do anything for the Higher Inteligence to spread life and save people from dieing.
about 9 years
Are we talking paradoxes?

I have one :

Roko's basilisk

"Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment about the potential risks involved in developing artificial intelligence. The experiment's premise is that an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future could retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence; even those who merely knew about the possibility of such a being coming into existence incur the risk of punishment."


From now on that you have read this you have to do everything possible to help the Being, because You know of that Being. And if you do not, you may be punished in the future.

"Furthermore, the punishment is for those who knew the importance of the task in advance but did not help sufficiently. In this respect, merely knowing about the Basilisk — e.g., reading this article — opens you up to hypothetical punishment from the hypothetical superintelligence. "


"Note that the AI in this setting is not a malicious or evil superintelligence (AM, HAL, SHODAN, Ultron, the Master Control Program, SkyNet, GLaDOS) — but the Friendly one we get if everything goes right and humans don't create a bad one. This is because every day the AI doesn't exist, people die that it could have saved; so punishing you or your future simulation is a moral imperative, to make it more likely you will contribute in the present and help it happen as soon as possible."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk#The_Basilisk
deletedabout 9 years
alright i'll give u that one. i might be back to it tho lol
deletedabout 9 years
ITT super genius mafia poster "belovedprincess" thinks he has solved not one but two of the most famous logical paradoxes ever created
deletedabout 9 years
oh wait, i have to go back one more lol.
deletedabout 9 years
The man is erroneous in his exclusion, though. You're right about that. Just like you now. That's you.
deletedabout 9 years
Once a day is eliminated it is eliminated. It follows the logical parameters set, as paradoxes tend to do
deletedabout 9 years
no, that's actually u, sonse.
deletedabout 9 years
oh, i suppose he can expect it on one of two days on wednesday night and that counts as a fair exclusion? damn, maybe that he expects it sometime during the week counts as a fair exclusion of him being hung on any day during the week?
deletedabout 9 years
Lmfao that's not even worth a response, it's just plain stupid
deletedabout 9 years
that's not a paradox either. the man was erroneous in his exclusion of days. he expects he will be hung during the week; that's fine. comes to thursday night, he expects friday, so on thursday friday is excluded; that's also fine. but on wednesday he doesn't know if it will be thursday or friday. how do thursday and friday get excluded on wednesday? the fault is in his working back along. forecasted expectation =/= actual expectation. there is no possible **real** exclusion of any day only the friday on the thursday night
deletedabout 9 years
I think that's a wrap, folks
deletedabout 9 years
There's another paradox that's pretty interesting, Sirius.

It's called Hanging Man's Paradox.

A man is sentenced by a Judge on Sunday, and told that he would be hung during the next business week, but the day would be on a day he wouldn't expect.

The man, sitting in his cell, pondered this. He realized that he could not be hung on Friday, because it would be the last possible day and he would expect it. Once Friday was eliminated he could also eliminate Thursday, because that would be the last possible day and he would expect it. And so forth. The man became confident that he could not possibly be hung, He was hung on Wednesday, and he didn't expect a god damned thing.


That's you right now Sirius. You're the Hanging Man
deletedabout 9 years
again...the prediction and action become a two-way street if the prediction is highly accurate. each defines the other. and both together define the win
deletedabout 9 years

TheeCake says


belovedprincess says


TheeCake says

Its predicting whether you will take both boxes or not.


and the prediction defines ur actions 999 times out of 1000, right? therefore, ur actions define ur win 999 times out of 1000. ur actions and the prediction are a two-way street


it's success rate in the past has been very very very high, but that doesn't make its success percentage known exactly


if its success rate is very high, then it will likely be successful, and if u choose the two boxes, for any reason, then u lose, because it was predicted that u would
deletedabout 9 years
why are u still making dumb appeals to authority? do u think they faze me?