If I pull the pin on a grenade and then YOLO into the nearest crowded building while shrieking the name of my Lord and Savior then I'm probably doing it for political reasons, and not religious ones. This is the explanation that makes the most sense.

Well, you have to admit - it is pretty darn racist to tell someone else that they are wrong to follow the teachings of a mass-murdering pedophile polygynist.

nice says

moral absolutism

You probably don't know what that term means.

But I think everyone in this thread would be pretty hard-pressed to deny the claim that Islam, being that it's a religion, provides much more fertile ground for a justification of atrocious acts than does atheism, the only claim of which is denial of something's existence. Just IMHO.

Rutab says

That's the thing, I am currently agnostic and don't know what I believe anymore. Certain things make me believe that God is definitely real, but other parts of me say that he isn't

Way to sit on the fence there lol. My guess is you already know exactly what you believe but you just don't want to admit it to yourself/your family/your community.

Pol Pot, probably the most brutal and successful genocidal dictator in history by proportionality, sent every single religious man in Cambodia to the Killing Fields, Grannie. Response???

UniversalStudios says

Peta says

I'm not looking for a fight because I don't know much about it, but the atheist defense against these sorts of claims is that ISIS, among other religious groups that commit acts of terrorism, is killing in the name of its religion (even if mainstream Muslims take offense to it), whereas atheist/secular groups typically don't kill in the name of atheism/secularism.

It's all political, "religion" just happens to be a super effective excuse.

Tell that to the corpses of the literally insane psychopaths who hijacked airplanes and flew them into the ground in the name of their god.

UniversalStudios says

Peta says

I'm not looking for a fight because I don't know much about it, but the atheist defense against these sorts of claims is that ISIS, among other religious groups that commit acts of terrorism, is killing in the name of its religion (even if mainstream Muslims take offense to it), whereas atheist/secular groups typically don't kill in the name of atheism/secularism.

It's all political, "religion" just happens to be a super effective excuse.

Tell that to the corpses of the literally insane psychopaths who hijacked airplanes and flew them into the ground in the name of their god.

That's the thing, I am currently agnostic and don't know what I believe anymore. Certain things make me believe that God is definitely real, but other parts of me say that he isn't

moral absolutism

Peta says

I'm not looking for a fight because I don't know much about it, but the atheist defense against these sorts of claims is that ISIS, among other religious groups that commit acts of terrorism, is killing in the name of its religion (even if mainstream Muslims take offense to it), whereas atheist/secular groups typically don't kill in the name of atheism/secularism.

It's all political, "religion" just happens to be a super effective excuse.

I'm not looking for a fight because I don't know much about it, but the atheist defense against these sorts of claims is that ISIS, among other religious groups that commit acts of terrorism, is killing in the name of its religion (even if mainstream Muslims take offense to it), whereas atheist/secular groups typically don't kill in the name of atheism/secularism.

Peta says

But I think everyone in this thread would be pretty hard-pressed to deny the claim that Islam, being that it's a religion, provides much more fertile ground for a justification of atrocious acts than does atheism, the only claim of which is denial of something's existence. Just IMHO.

Well they're pressing pretty hard. We can't offend any religious groups after all. Gotta stay politically correct. Nobody's delicate sensibilities or feelings can be hurt or else we might be admitting that some people's beliefs are just plain wrong.

But I think everyone in this thread would be pretty hard-pressed to deny the claim that Islam, being that it's a religion, provides much more fertile ground for a justification of atrocious acts than does atheism, the only claim of which is denial of something's existence. Just IMHO.

Rutab says

I can't even tell anyone in real life that I am an agnostic Christian who actually leans more on in the middle of "maybe there's a god, and maybe there isn't", because my parents would crucify me and I would be banished from their overly powerful Conservative household

Which side are you on here? Geez, make up your mind. Just admit you don't think God exists so you can join the rest of the rational people here pointing out the flaws in respecting the religious beliefs of others.

Peta says

Lashka says

"nobody kills in the name of Atheism"

Well Pol Pot, Mao Tse-Tung, Josef Stalin, Kim Il-Sung and a few others might be disagreeing with you there.

Please refer to the part where I exclude myself from the group of people who make these arguments.

I was talking to Grannie there