I would like to have a thought provoking and civil conversation about ISIS.....what you think will stop them, what will make it worse. Please make this a civil and appropriate discussion. i am looking for a good conversation not a flame war.
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We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
That's not what I said. It's not about forcing them to believe or not believe anything.
There's a button in front of you. If you push it, all muslims across thew world will instantly stop believing in Islam and the Quran and instead embrace rational thinking and logic in determining their beliefs.
i'm actually not sure what teachings you're talking about, and who the mass-murdering pedophile polygynist is, but in the case that you were talking about islam, what i was trying to say is that you shouldn't invalidate a religion that can be good just bc it was preached/created (not sure which bc i stil have no idea who you're talking about). it wasnt an attack chill
Especially considering that we westerners have been conditioned to dislike and distrust Muslims and Islam "because we're at war with them". Not even sure why people are having this discussion without understanding why we're at odds in the first place.
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It is also incredibly dumb to kill someone because they drew a political cartoon you don't like
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Well I don't see many atheist terrorist groups around, do you?
"nobody kills in the name of atheism."
You're talking about Pol Pot somehow killing in the name of atheism. I'm not responding to your childish strawman arguments
Grannie's arguments are all void because of the soft push of condemning anyone believing anything different than Christianity, I actually find it almost degrading
How can that possibly be the conclusion you've drawn about his posts?
Never mind it, I'm probably wrong, but that's just the vibe I've been getting
Yeah sorry you are wrong. I'm an atheist, in case you didn't notice. I share the same animosity towards Christianity as I do to Islam. It's just that Islam seems to be a more dangerous ideology and it's also the current topic.
I'm taking history of world religions don't mess with me.
Well you called me stupid for saying I want to eradicate Islam. I guess my question is, why wouldn't you want to? Unless you're a Muslim I can't see how you think that these billion people following all these writings from an imaginary God is a good thing for the world. Giving women no rights, wrapping them head to toe in cloth and beating them if they object, stoning gay people and heretics and adulterers, etc.
Wouldn't you stop all of them believing this nonsense if you somehow had the chance?
what gives you the right to make that judgement? I'm an atheist, more specifically, an apatheist, but that doesn't give me the right to keep others from believing in whatever it is they believe in. if you do that, you are doing exactly what other religions do, and that is trying to push your belief that there is no god on others.
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I feel like I definitely stretched that thought, but Grannie continually calling Islamic beliefs nonsense, and calling the words of God absolute law all in the same posts, it makes you think
Well, you have to admit - it is pretty darn racist to tell someone else that they are wrong to follow the teachings of a mass-murdering pedophile polygynist.
moral absolutism
You probably don't know what that term means.
is that it :O
It takes a very special person to swat aside objections to mass murder, pedophilia, and polygyny with cries of "Moral absolutism!" but fortunately for everyone in this thread we need not test our sanity with seriously engaging you, because zero modern moral philosophers with an ounce of credibility to their name - except maybe MacIntyre, who's pretty bad - have defended relativism.
i'm actually not sure what teachings you're talking about, and who the mass-murdering pedophile polygynist is, but in the case that you were talking about islam, what i was trying to say is that you shouldn't invalidate a religion that can be good just bc it was preached/created (not sure which bc i stil have no idea who you're talking about) by someone who was bad. it wasnt an attack chill
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Grannie's arguments are all void because of the soft push of condemning anyone believing anything different than Christianity, I actually find it almost degrading
How can that possibly be the conclusion you've drawn about his posts?
Grannie's arguments are all void because of the soft push of condemning anyone believing anything different than Christianity, I actually find it almost degrading
How can that possibly be the conclusion you've drawn about his posts?
Never mind it, I'm probably wrong, but that's just the vibe I've been getting
I don't see what's wrong with that conclusion
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Pol Pot killed people for believing in a God. That is a fact, Grannie, that you can't run from.
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Grannie's arguments are all void because of the soft push of condemning anyone believing anything different than Christianity, I actually find it almost degrading
How can that possibly be the conclusion you've drawn about his posts?
Never mind it, I'm probably wrong, but that's just the vibe I've been getting
We're talking about Islam and other religions, you're talking about Pol Pot somehow killing in the name of atheism. I'm not responding to your childish strawman arguments, we're having real discussions here, sorry lol.
I'm taking history of world religions don't mess with me.
Well you called me stupid for saying I want to eradicate Islam. I guess my question is, why wouldn't you want to? Unless you're a Muslim I can't see how you think that these billion people following all these writings from an imaginary God is a good thing for the world. Giving women no rights, wrapping them head to toe in cloth and beating them if they object, stoning gay people and heretics and adulterers, etc.
Wouldn't you stop all of them believing this nonsense if you somehow had the chance?
Every "religion" has been used to weaponize people, however weaponization of people is not the core of religion. Taking God away from people so that "god" can't be used against people wont actually solve your problem.
Grannie's arguments are all void because of the soft push of condemning anyone believing anything different than Christianity, I actually find it almost degrading
How can that possibly be the conclusion you've drawn about his posts?
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Grannie's arguments are all void because of the soft push of condemning anyone believing anything different than Christianity, I actually find it almost degrading
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I remember when I was in Turkey and Egypt, I was astounded by the fact I couldn't see any women, just these sacks of cloth that men used as punchbags.
Well, you have to admit - it is pretty darn racist to tell someone else that they are wrong to follow the teachings of a mass-murdering pedophile polygynist.
moral absolutism
You probably don't know what that term means.
is that it :O
It takes a very special person to swat aside objections to mass murder, pedophilia, and polygyny with cries of "Moral absolutism!" but fortunately for everyone in this thread we need not test our sanity with seriously engaging you, because zero modern moral philosophers with an ounce of credibility to their name - except maybe MacIntyre, who's pretty bad - have defended relativism.
I'm taking history of world religions don't mess with me.
Well you called me stupid for saying I want to eradicate Islam. I guess my question is, why wouldn't you want to? Unless you're a Muslim I can't see how you think that these billion people following all these writings from an imaginary God is a good thing for the world. Giving women no rights, wrapping them head to toe in cloth and beating them if they object, stoning gay people and heretics and adulterers, etc.
Wouldn't you stop all of them believing this nonsense if you somehow had the chance?
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Probably because nobody actually follows "Animism" as it's a blanket term for thousands of different religions.