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I've been trying to keep my mouth shut for quite a while, but I've decided to finally make this thread because there are a lot of things that need to be addressed. No one is coming out with it when several people have complained about this, so I've decided to be the sacrificial lamb and post on behalf of the entire community. And if I lose any chance of being a moderator and fixing up the site, so be it. I'm more concerned that we have respectable people leading EM.

Reasons the mod team is unprofessional:

Jericho, a previously banned user, is modded. He reported Caroline for OGI to spite her for their previous tension, without addressing the guy who actually GRS'd.

https://epicmafia.com/report/120879

https://epicmafia.com/report/120890

https://epicmafia.com/report/120895

Vancy / Rutab used modding powers to find my secret alt, which would have been fine, but one of them then unexusably told many non-mods I especially did not trust that I was Flux. This is the only conclusion I can come to.

http://puu.sh/dyrfw/bde512af32.png

http://puu.sh/dyrgV/3714296891.png

Kino account shared with a banned user. This is unexusable in any case. Not only should she be punished, but she should definitely not be moderating the site.


I have no personal issue with any of the mods, but it truly does seem that it's a bit of a circlejerk. If I'm not mistaken, most of the moderators are close or at least have a mutual connection. This is a huge problem and I think others should be given a chance to mod, since most of them are not serious about the well-being of the site.

Moderators are supposed to be our system of control. It's supposed to be professional work. This is anything but. If you are not going to do what's good for the community, please don't become a moderator.

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Im not reading? You really don't think thats what he did?

And yes its sexist to use manly and sexist to use girly. sexiest
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Apostasy says

Jericho literally ran on manhunt and took it seriously


This is actually a legitimate reason to make fun of Jericho.
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TheOnlyJazzNation1 says

There is no way Empire you believe he reported her because he wasn't just upset. He was mad his girlfriend got a vio and like a little girl decided i'll go get her back. Thats quite obvious. It is extremely and one of the most girly things I think that a guy yet alone a moderator could do


You're not reading.

Also the sexism in this is appalling.
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Jericho literally ran on manhunt and took it seriously
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ediz12 says

As if attacking her opinions is a solution


I'm questioning the intent of this thread as an afterthought to already tackling the thread itself.
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Why can't we just mod people who are good at mafia
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appleofmyeye says

He reported Caroline for OGI to spite her for their previous tension


She broke a rule. The reason it was reported later was because there was a kind of understood thing that everyone in the game was trolling so none of us cared. The second one report was brought out though, why would Caro be allowed to walk away without a violation despite blatantly breaking a rule at the same time?

There is no way Empire you believe he reported her because he wasn't just upset. He was mad his girlfriend got a vio and like a little girl decided i'll go get her back. Thats quite obvious. It is extremely and one of the most girly things I think that a guy yet alone a moderator could do
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As if attacking her opinions is a solution
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And this entire section of garbage:

appleofmyeye says

I've been trying to keep my mouth shut for quite a while, but I've decided to finally make this thread because there are a lot of things that need to be addressed.


None of the stuff you addressed, to be blunt, was really anything that needed addressing unless you count digging up the already-discussed-and-over Kino case bringing up something new and important.

appleofmyeye says

No one is coming out with it when several people have complained about this


...lol

appleofmyeye says

so I've decided to be the sacrificial lamb and post on behalf of the entire community.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_complex
Get over yourself. You're not doing anything so high and mighty or for the greater good. You're lashing out at mods you don't like with weak reasoning at best for the sake of attention and trying to seem intellectual/cool.

appleofmyeye says

And if I lose any chance of being a moderator and fixing up the site, so be it.


More "Oh woe is me, I'm giving myself up for the GREATER GOOD" when in reality you're just giving a personal opinion that is at best held by 50% or less of the forum population as a regular user on epicmafia.com, not bearing a cross for the whole world to watch and admire.

appleofmyeye says

I'm more concerned that we have respectable people leading EM.


Considering everything in your previous statement it sounds like you're lying to us, yourself, or both because this is the least of your concerns and in reality you are just upset you could never become a moderator while people you dislike can because they have some semblance of knowledge about the site. You are just trying to garner attention at the expense of the modteam to further your martyr complex and your own need for it. In this the obsession with Marina expressed by your profile is extremely fitting.
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And if they could all be Vancy and Jackhammer, I'm sure some people would still find reason to complain ;-)))
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It literally does not matter who is modded, the community will still complain about it. There has never not been a time when people were trying to overthrow the mods. We can't all get our way. Zzz. If these mods were replaced, I'm sure everyone would complain about their replacements.

Not everyone can be Vancy and Jackhammer.
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jk :)
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the biggest issue with the mods is that I'm not one
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Gist of the story: Laptops can GRS. Be aware if your laptop is overheating, he might be planning to GRS.
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Ok wait let me find some butter for them
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Steven says

Wow Empire I'm disappointed. i was cooking my popcorns waiting for the fight


Doesn't change the rest of my post, and there was a very good reason not to address the actual GRS.

1. It was very forgettable and not really related to the stream of reports that followed. The main issue of both games were the common thread of spamming and not NLing while caro hated fun , starting when she OGI'd. The fact I completely forgot about Laptop, and did literally immediately after the second the next game started-because otherwise I probably would have brought it up myself somewhere in the comments-is evidence of the fact that Laptop was never really a center of contention unlike the OGI/Spamming and thus low priority.
2. To be blunt he was doing the Lord's work and everyone was happy he did it, caro ("Oh my god thank u") and Jericho included. If there was no one in the game who thought breaking the rule SHOULD have been reported, why would you do it anyway?

That last part is a bit of a stretch, in order to better illustrate:

Let's say in the context of the spamming/trolling game literally everyone was doing it, including caro. As a result, no one in the game reports it. Would a mod who just happened to read the game have been compelled to report every single one of us and vio the entire game if there was not someone attempting to play seriously? I doubt you would argue yes here. When it comes to rules, it's generally "No harm, no foul". In both the OGI and the trolling case there was harm. The GRS was doing the Lord's work and I doubt ANYONE, IN ANY POSITION, would have reported him had the spamming incident not happened.

3. The GRS is actually debatable and if he wanted to get it OT'd he probably could.
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i genuinely like the mechanical clicky sounds of the old ones. haven't used a desktop regularly in a long time though.
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Renaldo says

me when i get really mad about epicmafia




that's an old keyboard you should upgrade
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me when i get really mad about epicmafia

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dang too late it took me so long to find the appropriate gif.
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Wow Empire I'm disappointed. i was cooking my popcorns waiting for the fight
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Edit: Nevermind, whoops. I'm wrong here.

Still easy to forget and not really damning against Jericho.
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Empire says


appleofmyeye says

without addressing the guy who actually GRS'd.


No one GRS'd.


Different game then what you're thinking of I presume, see https://epicmafia.com/report/120931
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By all means caro, enlighten me.