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Edark lying to help friend

panthero
almost 8 years

https://epicmafia.com/report/189815

He blatantly lies about him not having a history of grs.

Here is history. https://epicmafia.com/report/184979 . https://epicmafia.com/report/163759 https://epicmafia.com/report/46528 https://epicmafia.com/report/52890 You clearly gave the wrong information in order to close the report. I want other mods to handle this. He clearly has a very bad history and IF HE HAD TO LEAVE AND KNEW HE COULDN'T PARTICIPATE THEN WHY DID HE NOT LEAVE BEFORE SHOOTING. I KNOW HE HAD TO LEAVE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT HE COULD HAVE LEFT BEFORE SHOOTING. HE SHOT BEFORE LEAVING SO THAT HE COULD SHOOT MAFIA AND THEN PUT UP A VOTE AND LEAVE. SINCE HE DIDNT SHOOT MAFIA HE LEFT WHEN HE COULD HAVE PUT UP A VOTE AS HE WAS GONNA BLEED AND DIE AS BLEEDER ANYWAY

Why did you lie in the report to close it?

Once I pointed out that you lied you were supposed to reopen the appeal.

You didnt reopen and I filed a new report so you closed it again.

Edark
almost 8 years
Well I think this matter has been settled. Feel free to send me PM's if you got any more questions.
Sinek8
almost 8 years

Soluciones says



and although the veredict was right, ive learned asking the admins does nothing because they dont even read things and are the leaders of THEIR mod team so there's nothing to do


today i was feeling bad, introvert and wasted at least an hour on this topic like it would change anything. thanks for reminding this.
leo
almost 8 years

Laandon says

When Leo and Pam of all people agree with me I think it's pretty obvious that you've blown this up in your head, Pranay.


seriously, in any other situation, this would be the fourth horseman of the apocalypse
deletedalmost 8 years
Edark should be admin
Betrayal
almost 8 years
This thread is a failed attempt to shame Edarks name and get Edark demoderated.
Sinek8
almost 8 years
or you can just go reread some last grs vios.
deletedalmost 8 years
I believe Laandon I mean, if your mom is calling you and knowing how moms are lol, i dont think he thought 'if i do this and that the game will not be lost' because i believe it was in a rush.

and although the veredict was right, ive learned asking the admins does nothing because they dont even read things and are the leaders of THEIR mod team so there's nothing to do
deletedalmost 8 years
When Leo and Pam of all people agree with me I think it's pretty obvious that you've blown this up in your head, Pranay.
Sinek8
almost 8 years

Laandon says

Sinek, the "mistake" argument has no bearing since I'd have suicided regardless. If I had time to stay and play, I would have stayed and played. Also, there's an actress so maybe I DID shoot Mafia? I didn't even go back and read the game lol.


Hi, once I got a grs vio. Let me explain the vio i got, i can link the game if you like to.
I was clear cop, i hammered correct on 40% chance lylo (so no mistakes i made, no shame-effect that can trigger a sui).
Then it went to night. Following day was a three way with one experienced player as a clear.
I veg'd at night.
I got a grs vio, i appealed saying why would i grs after hammering lylo, why would i grs when im gonna be dead already (as i said i was cop, obv kill of maf) but mods gave me a vio saying 'you still had chance to lose, you probably thought you would lose, so you get grs vio."

Mods told me they all discussed it and decided it to be a vio so its not a random vio.

Now tell me jeff, consider my case to yours, do you think you are not in the scumminess level of suicides to get a grs vio?
deletedalmost 8 years
Pranay if I joined to throw and GRS against you I'd prolly just have shot you instead TBH.
leo
almost 8 years
can someone hurry up and lock this thread already like

the admins stepped in. let pranay go find something new complain about to the point y'all can bust him for forum spam
deletedalmost 8 years
Sinek, the "mistake" argument has no bearing since I'd have suicided regardless. If I had time to stay and play, I would have stayed and played. Also, there's an actress so maybe I DID shoot Mafia? I didn't even go back and read the game lol.
Sinek8
almost 8 years

EtherealFan says

Jeff said he still would have sui'd if he shot mafia.

Upvote this comment if you think he is lying.

Downvote this comment if you think he's being honest.

Don't be afraid. Jeff and Pranay can't vote


it should not matter.
leo
almost 8 years

Sinek8 says


leo says


Sinek8 says


leo says

then it's totally based on mod discretion



Look, I believe this case is a clear grs violation that discretion does not actually matter.

For instance, imagine someone harassing others in game for no reason with r- and f- words all game. That would be a clear HC vio, that discretion thingy would not matter.

Harassing people all day is a clear hc as this case is a clear grs.

And if mods no-vio that case... You would make fun of people who complain saying 'weh weh mods did a ruling i don't personally agree with'



k, grs and hc vios are totally different since there's undeniable evidence for hc vios but in your opinion, grs vios depend on whether or not it's 'scummy' ( like this ~ very special one ~ because mods are icky and gross and in a horrible circlejerk that's ruining the site )

so uh... what is the truth?


you are right that grs cannot be obvious and clear as hc, but i think it is clear that in this case grs is almost obvious as hc.



your opinion ≠ mod opinion
Sinek8
almost 8 years

leo says

> hello, you need to understand why this isn't about you
> actually, he would get a grs vio if he wasn't named jeff

lmfao anyway,


yes this is not about him. this is about consistency of grs violations.
deletedalmost 8 years
jeff suicides all the time as mafia and as town, dont think he grsd
Sinek8
almost 8 years

leo says


Sinek8 says


leo says

then it's totally based on mod discretion



Look, I believe this case is a clear grs violation that discretion does not actually matter.

For instance, imagine someone harassing others in game for no reason with r- and f- words all game. That would be a clear HC vio, that discretion thingy would not matter.

Harassing people all day is a clear hc as this case is a clear grs.

And if mods no-vio that case... You would make fun of people who complain saying 'weh weh mods did a ruling i don't personally agree with'



k, grs and hc vios are totally different since there's undeniable evidence for hc vios but in your opinion, grs vios depend on whether or not it's 'scummy' ( like this ~ very special one ~ because mods are icky and gross and in a horrible circlejerk that's ruining the site )

so uh... what is the truth?


you are right that grs cannot be obvious and clear as hc, but i think it is clear that in this case grs is almost obvious as hc.
leo
almost 8 years
> hello, you need to understand why this isn't about you
> actually, he would get a grs vio if he wasn't named jeff

lmfao anyway,
deletedalmost 8 years
Jeff said he still would have sui'd if he shot mafia.

Upvote this comment if you think he is lying.

Downvote this comment if you think he's being honest.

Don't be afraid. Jeff and Pranay can't vote
Sinek8
almost 8 years

Laandon says

Came back, saw a gunsmith claim so I quickly shot outside. Then I took a minute to read. Mom called me back outside. Said we had to leave, so I ran inside and apologized. Would have suicided regardless because I had to leave and couldn't finish the game properly.


Hello, you need to understand this argument is not about you but it is about suiciding after making a mistake when you can simply die.

It should not matter in violations that if a person is a mod friend or who can explain things more in forums.

I believe if someone suis after a mistake when he can simply die a minute later, he should get a grs vio. Actually, he would get a grs vio if he wasnt named Jeff and had mod friends. Thats what this topic is about.

As I said earlier, in this way some grs vios are given unfairly but it is ok in the big picture. In the big picture we block people from doing grs things by faking reasons and in the big picture one grs vio you will get is nothing for you, if you are not really a grs-ing player.
deletedalmost 8 years
So what I was bleeding and gonna die, I had to leave and couldn't continue to play/lead
deletedalmost 8 years
Came back, saw a gunsmith claim so I quickly shot outside. Then I took a minute to read. Mom called me back outside. Said we had to leave, so I ran inside and apologized. Would have suicided regardless because I had to leave and couldn't finish the game properly.
mandevian
almost 8 years
The truth is simple. Ask jeff if he would have put up a vote if he shot illusionist?

If he answers that he would still suicide then I close this thread.
leo
almost 8 years

Sinek8 says


leo says

then it's totally based on mod discretion



Look, I believe this case is a clear grs violation that discretion does not actually matter.

For instance, imagine someone harassing others in game for no reason with r- and f- words all game. That would be a clear HC vio, that discretion thingy would not matter.

Harassing people all day is a clear hc as this case is a clear grs.

And if mods no-vio that case... You would make fun of people who complain saying 'weh weh mods did a ruling i don't personally agree with'



k, grs and hc vios are totally different since there's undeniable evidence for hc vios but in your opinion, grs vios depend on whether or not it's 'scummy' ( like this ~ very special one ~ because mods are icky and gross and in a horrible circlejerk that's ruining the site )

so uh... what is the truth?
Sinek8
almost 8 years

EtherealFan says

Someone bump my "MIKEYRU" topic, he seriously got away with a grudge lynch and I never even got a mod reply


MikeyRu does grudge a lot but he does it by hiding it a bit, he does it in legal levels. :(