He blatantly lies about him not having a history of grs.
Here is history. https://epicmafia.com/report/184979 . https://epicmafia.com/report/163759https://epicmafia.com/report/46528https://epicmafia.com/report/52890 You clearly gave the wrong information in order to close the report. I want other mods to handle this. He clearly has a very bad history and IF HE HAD TO LEAVE AND KNEW HE COULDN'T PARTICIPATE THEN WHY DID HE NOT LEAVE BEFORE SHOOTING. I KNOW HE HAD TO LEAVE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT HE COULD HAVE LEFT BEFORE SHOOTING. HE SHOT BEFORE LEAVING SO THAT HE COULD SHOOT MAFIA AND THEN PUT UP A VOTE AND LEAVE. SINCE HE DIDNT SHOOT MAFIA HE LEFT WHEN HE COULD HAVE PUT UP A VOTE AS HE WAS GONNA BLEED AND DIE AS BLEEDER ANYWAY
Why did you lie in the report to close it?
Once I pointed out that you lied you were supposed to reopen the appeal.
You didnt reopen and I filed a new report so you closed it again.
No, he's talking about the fact that modding should be a lot stricter. He's still bitter because I gave ian a leash, and made HC more lenient. He's saying that the point in modding is to enforce, however his interpretation of enforcement is to over-moderate, and over-police.
Im not sure if these posts are ironic but the site would be way better if this was the case or if people had this mindset atleast when modding.
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Indirectly it is
The game is less enjoyable for people when they're ruined by rule breakers, so the goal of modding is to weed out rulebreakers so all of the games are played correctly
if that wasnt the case then what's the point of modding
Nathan if you are not blind, you can see the history of jeff that I posted.
1- this was blatant, unless you don't understand basic mechanics of the game. He could have voted and left as he was dead already. He didn't have to shoot if he had to leave.
2- you can't give benefit of doubt for something this blatant to a user with such bad history. Also stemmed by the fact that edark straight up lied that he has no history, just to close this.
3- how does giving a deserved grs vio to a user who has history of grs and history of bypassing ban, scare him away?
4- he needs to get the vio so he stops doing this in order to stay unbanned.
5- not giving him this vio is like giving abc benefit of doubt in a cheating accusation when we have skype logs, so that he doesn't leave the site.
Show me and I'll consider self OTing this but I think you and I both know this reason seems and probably is legitimate.
Wrong. In my books, I'm a pretty lenient mod. I use benefit of the doubt particularly in GT and GRS reports where it's not blatant and there's a grey area (particularly when they bother to explain their reasons). The aim of modding is not to scare people of the site and ban them. That being said, I can pm you next time I put "benefit of the doubt" on a report if you would like.
Exactly, cody got involved. Regardless if that had to do with the appeal or not is irrelevant since you're not supposed to use reports/appeals like that. Its not hard to write a quick PM to cody or make a thread like this.
How did soda appeal an appeal? He got told that it wasnt possible in that report. .
He got what he wanted there. After Ethereal's comment of he cant appeal an appeal, cody involved and removed the vio as soda wishes.
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Edark, let the mod team that lets you down and alone handle this. You're the only mod rn that dares to speak professionally and have a a srs convo about complaints. let your mod team and admins handle tense situations bc ur a nice dude and they ALWAYS throw you to the lions
They dont really throw me anywhere tbh, Im just quite active on the forums and Im not afraid to argue my stances. Im problably the most active dude on the forums regardless.
@panthero if you were soda you could appeal an appeal and get what you wanted https://epicmafia.com/report/185934 since you are not you will get a report spam warning lol
How did soda appeal an appeal? He got told that it wasnt possible in that report. Since I was telling panthero to follow the regular procedure and PM an admin or make a thread(which get way more exposure anyways so I dont see how this is a bad thing for panthero) but he completely ignored me TWICE I gave him a warning.
IF JEFF HAD GOOD INTENTIONS 1. HE WOULD SAY "PEOPLE I WAS AFK I CANT BE A GOOD CLEAR I SUI NOW, BEFORE THE SHOOT 2. HE WOULD JUST VOTE HIS FOS OR GIVE HAMMER TO A CLEAR SINCE HE IS GOING TO DIE ANYWAYS.
Well yes this is plausible. I personally believe due to the fact that he was afk he suicided regardless of the outcome and didnt think it was fair for him to randomvote and leave town on their own(as that would be ISP and its actually just better to straight up suicide).
The incriminating part is the shot as pranay pointed out. As in that his motives could be to try and yolo the shoot and then sui if he failed or randomvote if he hit. But considering he was afk untill he shoot and then afk quite a bit more afterwards I find this unlikely. Fakeable, but unlikely still. If Jeff GRS it tends to be due to him getting angry(as can be seen at the history of the reports) but nothing in that game suggests that was the case.
@panthero if you were soda you could appeal an appeal and get what you wanted https://epicmafia.com/report/185934 since you are not you will get a report spam warning lol