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The abc problem

almost 5 years

I think that abc deep down is a good guy that just wants to play Epic mafia in peace. He has been horribly mistreated over the years so now he is just trying to annoy everyone.

Like I think that he would behave for someone like me, because I would ensure that he was actually treated fairly

I can give an example from years ago. He got like a gt vio or something and it was totally wrong. I confronted the mod on it at the time and they basically said that he throws all the time, and even though it was no vio, they were giving him a vio to try to get rid of him. When people are treated this way, they mistrust the system and act out.

If he was given a completely new chance and people treated him with respect and fairly, I do not think he would act out. From my talks with him, I think that this is true

Demands of abc/mods
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We think that the mods should treat abc fairly and give him a new chance with no strings attached. ABC in response should be a model clean player on the site that does not throw or ruin games.
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superspooky says

So if someone gets a site ban and then just keeps joining on other accounts he should just be forgiven?

Okay let's say he wasn't treated fairly, is this any way on how to react back?
I don't know the full story but I am sure they mods have good reasons to have him banned.

Have you seen the names of the accounts he made, impersonating ppl, GT,...
Add a month ban for each suspension he bypassed and you're important.

If you would vio every situation he'd have more then 100 vios.

I'll say it right here:
The mods will never EVER unban abc.
You have to accept that.

It's only a matter about handling the situation.


that is the problem. he should not have been site banned like this. he does this because he is site banned so why not kill the game for everyone else?

yes he should probably have 1000s of vios now. he needs grace here though. Give him a new chance with no vios and no drama.

I think that he would be a model player for us all if he got this and the problems would subside
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So if someone gets a site ban and then just keeps joining on other accounts he should just be forgiven?

Okay let's say he wasn't treated fairly, is this any way on how to react back?

I don't know the full story but I am sure the mods have good reasons to have him banned.

Have you seen the names of the accounts he made, impersonating ppl, GT,...

Add a month ban for each suspension he bypassing and you're immortal.

If you would vio every situation he'd have more then 100 vios.

I'll say it right here:
The mods will never EVER unban abc.
You have to accept that.

It's only a matter about handling the situation.
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Transcend says

there's nothing that can condone that kind of behavior, jen


I agree that it is not right at all for him to talk like that.

The mod that he said that to though always would personally attack me though, and I could see how one could get triggered by that.

Some examples of stuff I got from them was saying I am a waste of space. someone should have thrown condoms at my parents so i was not born. comparing me to like fungus and other horrible things. I never said anything back to them after years of this, but I too eventually snapped.

there is no way that this person did not say hateful things to abc based on their history. while it is not okay for him to have said that back, I can totally see how he could get to that point as a good person. You can't blame someone completely for snapping here and this past history should not be used against him for years.

also that instance was like over two years ago now. when is enough enough?
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KokoroASMR says

I'm confused why you're saying this abc guy deserves a fair chance when you weren't here when this all started. For all you know he was.


This is true, but I have been here for like four years now and I have seen how he is treated. I have talked to him about this many times before.

It was sad but I saw many games where he played normally and did nothing wrong but the mods would vio farm him to get him banned.

he even claims to have thrown some, but if he would agree to not do this at all anymore and was given a fair chance to come back, I think the situation would resolve itself.

abc is a good player and could be an asset for the site even. like imagine if you could harness all his time spent trying to kill games now to putting him on cheating investigations?
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there's nothing that can condone that kind of behavior, jen
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Transcend says

hey just an fyi but someone that threatens to kill one's children is probably a pretty bad person


I strongly disagree with what he said, but we do not know his side of the story. He has been personally attacked by that person a lot too, and I know this for a fact. Honestly this person has snapped at so many people over the years and this results in drama

People snap when they are constantly attacked by someone. I said horrible things myself to that same person, as they have done back to me too. I am not a bad person though, but I was really pushed to my end by the way that person treated me constantly.

I think that if he was given a chance here, he would do okay. This would require people to leave him alone though and not constantly bring up his past. If he is really a bad person like you say, then he will get banned again quickly for saying bad things and then we would know.
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I'm confused why you're saying this abc guy deserves a fair chance when you weren't here when this all started. For all you know he was.
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thank you justin
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you make a point matt
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hey just an fyi but someone that threatens to kill one's children is probably a pretty bad person
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Jeff says

headàss and willfully ignorant post.


jeff you should argue your full case against it then. I actually respect your opinion on this as you are not in the mod circle group that I know will attack this and you have been around a long time
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will you two hurry up and fck already
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headàss and willfully ignorant post.
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Carmen says



he just needs a hug


I agree. I think that he would be okay here if he was welcomed back and treated with respect that all members on this site deserve.

The past is the past and it should be dropped and we all should move on. I strongly believe that this is the only way that anyone will ever move past this.

The drama with abc and the mods has been going on since before I came to this site, and it needs to stop. The people with the power need to do the changing here though or nothing will ever get better
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And to the administration:

you guys are equally at fault here. You have harassed abc for years. yes he has said and done bad things back, but it has been two sided.

Currently things are way out of hand though and this needs resolved. Like I played a few games yesterday and everyone was like you are abc and were threatening to report me because he supposedly keeps ruining games?

you guys should not be site banning people like this and treating them the way you do. I have been there and the system just fuels the fire on all sides. I personally think you just want the drama of this though.

People like abc need to be given a new and fair chance and now. It should be no strings attached. They should be able to make new hidden accounts and start with 0 vios. if he misbehaves, he would be banned again fast. I do not think he would though if he was given a fair chance.

Additionally some mods have personal problems with him, but they should not be allowed to attack him and start drama with him. they should leave him in peace and let him remake himself on EM. The drama on this site by a few of the leaders here is beyond pathetic...
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And ABC I totally understand you. I was horribly treated like you, and I considered doing stuff like you do even over this. It is just not me. I can understand that you can get pushed that far though

It is pathetic how they treat you but honestly, you are not really hurting them by doing what you do. You maybe get enjoyment from it though?

It would be better if you just went back to playing like a normal player, but this requires the administration to stop mistreating you first
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he just needs a hug