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almost 6 years

Since some users dislike the political discussions on the Sandbox lobby wall, I’ve decided to make a serious thread where people can discuss political issues/tangentially-related discourse.

Please keep name-calling to a minimum and remember that site rules still apply. While this “debate” is not technically “moderated,” I reserve the right to mute anyone who decides to make this thread all about Jamal or Neanderthals or whatever.

Please just try to use this space to contain conversations that are otherwise derailing in other places.

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SteelixMega

almost 6 years

shounen says

SteelixMega says

if you have seen the news lately, any allegation causes a lot of backlash against the accused

tell that to literally every victim of sexual abuse im sure theyd be happy

yes, they should know that it all happens after they come out about something.

also there is no reason why you should be greedy enough to let yourself get r@ped so you can get a supply of money, because you are subjecting yourself to a nonstop bullying situation, giving the perpetrator power over you, getting your body violated, and managing to cream away a few dirty bucks when you can conversely get rid of the threat before it can reach others, show your worth, and earn a few bucks the right way, WITHOUT getting your body exploited and your life ruined.

SteelixMega

almost 6 years

Psy420 says

The gender pay gap:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/09/gender-pay-gap-facts/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/10/23/women-lose-500-billion-year-because-stubborn-gender-pay-gap/1728870002/
https://www.businessinsider.com/gender-wage-pay-gap-charts-2017-3
https://iwpr.org/issue/employment-education-economic-change/pay-equity-discrimination/
https://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/full/10.1108/01443330910965750

of these things, they all say that there are other factors contributing to the lower mean annual salary. of the ones that mentioned that women get paid less than men at certain jobs, it mentions overtime hours and maternity leave, just as I had mentioned before. And the statement in one of the article titles: Women lose $500 Billion, would be faulty because it is not like they are screwed over or have to pay $500 Billion, it is a simple comparison of counterparts EARNINGS, which is the complete opposite of LOSING (yes, I just denounced the clickbait of the title)

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SteelixMega says

if you have seen the news lately, any allegation causes a lot of backlash against the accused

tell that to literally every victim of sexual abuse im sure theyd be happy

SteelixMega

almost 6 years

lemonparty69 says

not so simple as that when it's also a capitalist scam

Well, women are allowed to buy what they want to buy, as well as men are allowed to buy what they want to buy. Targeting towards certain people may happen, but it is not like the government is forcing little girls to pay for barbie dolls or little boys to pay for dump trucks.

People have their preferences on what they want, and it might be slightly affected by the media. So what? Is it a bad thing that a lot of women like to wear makeup, and is it a bad thing that a lot of men don't like wearing makeup?

SteelixMega

almost 6 years

Psy420 says

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/23/us/why-i-didnt-report-assault-stories.html
https://money.cnn.com/technology/sexual-harassment-tech/
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/indias-metoo-movement-grows-as-more-women-recount-their-bad-experiences
Women recounting their experiences of experienced sexual assault. Real eye opener that this is something every women is likely to experience or witness firsthand. As proven by
https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics
(note the "One in five women and one in 71 men will be at some point in their lives") Note the number of sources cited in this link.

Out of all this, I still see no viable reason to not report it when it happens, and if you have seen the news lately, any allegation causes a lot of backlash against the accused. Waiting to tell the story allows perpetrators to do other things. People who have experienced sexual assault should not be "shamed" for being violated, that is such a bullcrap argument, and nowhere in here does it say that anybody was shamed, even after coming out about it.

Also, how would there be an estimated 90% of sexual crimes gone unreported? If there is knowledge about these crimes according to this department, then they are reported, technically.

USA

almost 6 years

women are better at some jobs and men are better at others

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not so simple as that when it's also a capitalist scam

YellowPear

almost 6 years

Maybe the problem isn't that any gender should wear makeup and look beautiful. Instead not realizing that no one has to wear makeup to be beautiful.

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maybe men should stop thinking basic hygiene (NOT including being pressured to cake yourself in 50 pounds of overpriced makeup) is gay

USA

almost 6 years

women also look better in general because it's frowned upon if men use makeup

YellowPear

almost 6 years

nice job helping overpopulation

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SO WHAT IF IM PREGNANT!!!!!!!

YellowPear

almost 6 years

yeah ok medical problems

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die wh*re

YellowPear

almost 6 years

yeah lol you look fat

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not a fan of pregnancy gotta say

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u rite... not a fan of the chance of contributing to imperialism and war crimes myself... gotta say if i ever get drafted (wouldnt anyway for medical reasons but) i'd rather serve a sentence

YellowPear

almost 6 years

get pregnant

USA

almost 6 years

the right to not sign up for the draft

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what rights are those

USA

almost 6 years

men don't have the same rights as women

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SteelixMega says

Would you say that men have any say in one's abortive rights? Would you say the same conversely for women?

men, as a class, shouldnt have a say in a women's right to an abortion. unfortunately, we do. unfortunately, men in power (and reverse cucked women too) do in fact limit women's rights to abortion. now, if youre talking about a father of a baby, sure, he can weigh in a bit, in most contexts. in the end, its a baby growing inside of her, and its her choice.

Bramble

almost 6 years

its not rocket science dude
men dont want women to have the same amount of power than them so they go to stupid lengths to keep them out
men think women shouldnt be allowed to have the same jobs as them

dont tell me youve never seen those gross "get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich" jokes directed @ women who aspire to make a difference in the world

Psy

almost 6 years

Hiring discrimination
https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/why-employers-favor-men
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/hiring-discrimination-against-women-2861.html

Sexism in hollywood & the media
https://www.msmu.edu/media/website/content-assets/msmuedu/home/status-of-women-and-girls-in-california/documents/Collectif-A_hollywood_FINAL.pdf
https://people.com/celebrity/sexism-in-hollywood-10-powerful-stories/
http://theconversation.com/how-media-sexism-demeans-women-and-fuels-abuse-by-men-like-weinstein-85789

Faked sexual assault accusations (its not as likely as you think)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/03/health/sexual-assault-false-reports/index.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684

Sex trafficking
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3651545/
https://www.ctdatacollaborative.org/story/human-trafficking-and-gender-differences-similarities-and-trends

Psy

almost 6 years

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/23/us/why-i-didnt-report-assault-stories.html
https://money.cnn.com/technology/sexual-harassment-tech/
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/indias-metoo-movement-grows-as-more-women-recount-their-bad-experiences
Women recounting their experiences of experienced sexual assault. Real eye opener that this is something every women is likely to experience or witness firsthand. As proven by
https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics
(note the "One in five women and one in 71 men will be at some point in their lives") Note the number of sources cited in this link.

The gender pay gap:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/09/gender-pay-gap-facts/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/10/23/women-lose-500-billion-year-because-stubborn-gender-pay-gap/1728870002/
https://www.businessinsider.com/gender-wage-pay-gap-charts-2017-3
https://iwpr.org/issue/employment-education-economic-change/pay-equity-discrimination/
https://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/full/10.1108/01443330910965750

Pink tax
https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/the-pink-tax/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pink-tax-women-shoppers-prepare-to-pay-more-than-men-gao-report/
https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-18-500

Workplace discrimination
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/12/14/gender-discrimination-comes-in-many-forms-for-todays-working-women/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/07/women-in-majority-male-workplaces-report-higher-rates-of-gender-discrimination/