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Is the filter going to be loosened?

about 6 years

This is mostly directed at Lucid ofc.

I know perhaps it is a bit early, but ultimately it's down to one person's decision, so I'm curious what the intention of the filter is. I know my understanding of what the filter would be was to be used against racial slurs, the worst of the worse. You know the ones. Words 99% of users will never even say. I figured I wouldn't even be aware the filter existed, since it was supposed to be targeted at hate speech. So... I was pretty thrown off when I found out I couldn't say "d00k." I feel like this was kinda a "gotcha" especially since this was going to be a "racial slurs" filter and not a "language" filter. I saw the list given to you (https://pastebin.com/Z6B0hbJn), and instead of going with those, you seem to have initially gone with a more general "language censorship" approach, which worries many of us. I assume you're going to fix that it currently chances "spicy" to "pear-y" and "Pakistan" to "Bananastan," so I'm not even going to ask about this.

Now I get that "b000h" and "d00k" can both be namecalling words, but this is what reports are for, no? I wouldn't even call them particular hateful words. Even "c00t" is a word that is though of as particularly taboo in the US to older people, but this connotation isn't the case (as I understand) in most English-speaking countries. "w000e" which is currently allowed, had very ugly specific (and arguably mysogynistic) connotation. I'm totally not saying "put who*e on the not allowed list." I'm just wondering... what direction are we going in, man? I assume you have some idea.

Now personally, from what I've seen, people don't like this change (or the whisper thing, but that's a completely different post. I really don't think anyone is seriously pushing you to allow racial slurs or whatnot. From what I've seen personally, it seems like overstepping when we are censored when casually cursing, which happens a lot. From what I've seen, EM users GENERALLY tend early 20s to even early 30s. Some late teens, yeah, but unless they're HIDING, I rarely see people below 17 from what I've seen. I don't know if this filter is perhaps because you want to move the site into a more family/conservative direction.

My personal experience on the site, up until now, is that, in addition to skewing older than many "game" sites, it is also very casual. Maybe that is because I play unranked? I don't know. However, in my experience, we love being joke-y, and often crude, and I'm still shocked how this site for whatever reason skews markedly LGBT+. A lot of us come here to relax and have fun and shoot the s00t. And I worry that one day it'll auto correct to "shoot the poopoo," especially when currently someone cant come on and complain that their boss is being a "b000h."

So I'm just kinda asking, what direction are we heading in?

about 6 years
reply to us, stop being a queer
about 6 years
Are we being trolled now though? We can't say the word _shit? That is not even a word that can even be misconstrued as hateful.
about 6 years
i mean, yeah lol. genuine concerns fall on deaf ears. the only people who received a response in this thread are the poor little babies who are upset about not being allowed to use hate speech
about 6 years
I'm very confused of the logic though. Come in, ready to listen to ideas,implement things no one has asked for, accuse them of being racist with they they there are things they'd like changed, and then not reply to their actual grievances.

I made a big post 30 minutes ago with my issues with filter, pointed out that even something basic is not fixed like slurs being of if it's plural. The game I'm in broke, and in the next game, that bit of the filter was patched. I KNOW it was read.
about 6 years

shayneismyname says

Did you really read white I wrote, updated the filter to remove plurals, and not reply to my overall messesage tho.


gotta give credit where it's due, it takes effort to come up with a filter that manages to block both too much and too little simultaneously
about 6 years
Lucid, there have been users with varations of the name "admin" going into games and insulting us. We'd out them but.. why?
about 6 years

JM123 says

You guys are a bunch of nectarine plus your moms are oranges and your dads are grape



The censor has the same word through the whole message, so it would actually be "You guys are a bunch of lime plus your moms are lime and your dads are lime"
about 6 years
Did you really read white I wrote, updated the filter to remove plurals, and not reply to my overall messesage tho.
about 6 years
lucid please reconsider just changing anything sent with bad words to thulu talk
about 6 years
about 6 years

TokenBlack says


And the filters existence, really just makes people BREAK the rules more, and find ways around it.


Been on the site since 2013. In the 12 times ive seen the n word said, 8 have been in the past 2 days.
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It really is stupid, that someone that hasn't been part of the community must lately, is deciding what the community should be allowed to do.

And the filters existence, really just makes people BREAK the rules more, and find ways around it.
about 6 years
And that is bottom of the barrel as far as ways the censor fails... but as long as I have to use those workarounds, I'm not gonna out then, because I have to use some of those workarounds to say d_ick.
about 6 years
what kinda spaghetti code is wildcarding аbo in аbout but not plural forms of slurs dbdfllfmgdbdh
about 6 years
That is part of my problem with a filter, bc before I've very very very rarely seen racial/religious/sexual orientation slurs used, but now I see them used all the time, and joyfully. It's become a game/meme of saying them to get the censored version,or trying different versions to see if the censor knows them.. and when the censor fails everyone just sees a full on racial slur and it becomes.. something everyone laughs at.

I mean, ive said, im all for having the filter there, but if you're not there constantly working on this thing... people are going to actively have fun testing it and breaking it. This is the internet.

But the thing I do see that was more common, but still rare, which is people making offensive jokes, is stuff no filter would ever catch.

So I think with a filter
1. You gotta remove the stuff that are not slurs (b_itch, c_cunt, and d_ick. If those weren't there, it's rare the filter would pop up in 99% of convos)
2. You gotta be *on* it, constantly. As someone pointed out, we can say f_aggots, even though f_aggot is banned. A user that would *never* say f_aggot will now say f_aggots just because it's getting bs past a filter. This is the internet.
3. TALK TO US. We're here. We're using the site everyday. If you listen to us about stuff that pisses us off - no one wants *this*, *this* isa fine but you need to fix *this*, we'd probably react a lot differently. Afaik this community is not used to change, so when they complain about change, saying blanket things like "well sorry you can't say racial slurs," really does yourself and the userbase a disservice.
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Yeah if you gonna ban slurs at least ban the plural form too (f*ggots) (r*tards)
JM gladly showed me those ones worked in a gold game yesterday lol
about 6 years
But yee there are a lot of things the filter doesn't filter (notable slurs) that I'd be happy to point out when the things that are not slurs are removed.
about 6 years
Hahaha hey give him time.
about 6 years
k_ike is still uncensored, it must not be hate speech.

Also remove the words that aren't hate speech like shayne has been posting (which you're still ignoring)
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i need to caps lock pls and ty
about 6 years
the caps filter has to leave as well. It filters the important things I must say at the moment where they must be said.
about 6 years
It seems I have missed a lot of drama in my absence. Fun
about 6 years
Suck my apple you fkn lime
about 6 years

JM123 says

You guys are a bunch of nectarine plus your moms are oranges and your dads are grape



based and redpilled
about 6 years
You guys are a bunch of nectarine plus your moms are oranges and your dads are grape