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Is the filter going to be loosened?

about 6 years

This is mostly directed at Lucid ofc.

I know perhaps it is a bit early, but ultimately it's down to one person's decision, so I'm curious what the intention of the filter is. I know my understanding of what the filter would be was to be used against racial slurs, the worst of the worse. You know the ones. Words 99% of users will never even say. I figured I wouldn't even be aware the filter existed, since it was supposed to be targeted at hate speech. So... I was pretty thrown off when I found out I couldn't say "d00k." I feel like this was kinda a "gotcha" especially since this was going to be a "racial slurs" filter and not a "language" filter. I saw the list given to you (https://pastebin.com/Z6B0hbJn), and instead of going with those, you seem to have initially gone with a more general "language censorship" approach, which worries many of us. I assume you're going to fix that it currently chances "spicy" to "pear-y" and "Pakistan" to "Bananastan," so I'm not even going to ask about this.

Now I get that "b000h" and "d00k" can both be namecalling words, but this is what reports are for, no? I wouldn't even call them particular hateful words. Even "c00t" is a word that is though of as particularly taboo in the US to older people, but this connotation isn't the case (as I understand) in most English-speaking countries. "w000e" which is currently allowed, had very ugly specific (and arguably mysogynistic) connotation. I'm totally not saying "put who*e on the not allowed list." I'm just wondering... what direction are we going in, man? I assume you have some idea.

Now personally, from what I've seen, people don't like this change (or the whisper thing, but that's a completely different post. I really don't think anyone is seriously pushing you to allow racial slurs or whatnot. From what I've seen personally, it seems like overstepping when we are censored when casually cursing, which happens a lot. From what I've seen, EM users GENERALLY tend early 20s to even early 30s. Some late teens, yeah, but unless they're HIDING, I rarely see people below 17 from what I've seen. I don't know if this filter is perhaps because you want to move the site into a more family/conservative direction.

My personal experience on the site, up until now, is that, in addition to skewing older than many "game" sites, it is also very casual. Maybe that is because I play unranked? I don't know. However, in my experience, we love being joke-y, and often crude, and I'm still shocked how this site for whatever reason skews markedly LGBT+. A lot of us come here to relax and have fun and shoot the s00t. And I worry that one day it'll auto correct to "shoot the poopoo," especially when currently someone cant come on and complain that their boss is being a "b000h."

So I'm just kinda asking, what direction are we heading in?

about 6 years

admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


censoring racial slurs & hate speech is a good idea. however, i definitely think that "lighter" curse words like b*tch or d*ck (along with typing in caps) should be uncensored.
about 6 years

admin says

well, what is censored that you feel shouldn't be? is it stuff you can even say here in the forums without getting an HC vio?


Dont forget to censor slur ending with s'es.

AND BRING BACK CAPS
about 6 years
Who even complained about all caps?
about 6 years

admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


Just because people are playing offended, doesn't mean it hurts them. If you are actually offended by words on the screen of an online game, turn off the computer and find something else to do.
about 6 years
I'd say the all caps. Sometimes in a game I'd like to emphasize something, so I say it in all caps, especially when some people just aren't listening.
For instance, if I'm real cop and everyone is believing the fake cop and completely ignoring my posts, I might want to all caps it.
about 6 years
Certainly! Like in the post, I thought that it was going to just be racial slurs getting censored. This is going to be a profane post, so forgive me lol.

d_ick should be uncensored, like how c_ock is uncensored.
c_unt should be uncensored, like p_ussy is
b_itch should be uncensored, like a_sshole and w_hore are
about 6 years
i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news
about 6 years

admin says

well, what is censored that you feel shouldn't be? is it stuff you can even say here in the forums without getting an HC vio?


First of all, there's literally no need for all caps to not work.

Second, I don't see why anything is censored. This isn't christianchat.com. I don't cuss in my personal life or on here, but I'm certainly not offended by others saying things and I don't care what some random person I don't know types in an online game.

Maybe we should have zero tolerance for snowflakes and people pretending to be offended.
about 6 years
well, what is censored that you feel shouldn't be? is it stuff you can even say here in the forums without getting an HC vio?
about 6 years
tbh the censoring thing is pretty humorous, but you don't want to censor everything.
about 6 years
We're becoming roblox-ized.
Everything will be censored soon. :o
about 6 years
BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO CAPS IS THE REAL ISSUE HERE

I remember the good old days of when D1 of TEO was a complete spamfest of people spamming in caps. Its an IMPORTANT strategy that has been in epicmafia for ages, please remove it :(
about 6 years
i can't even say lynch anymore wtf
about 6 years
that people actually are upset against this is just childish, who gives a its really funny tbh
about 6 years
I have a shirt that says “there’s always money in the Banana Stand” from Arrested Development and this post reminded me of it.
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i don't mind the filter for racial slurs but pls let me say d*ck in peace kthx

b*tch arguably has misogynistic connotations but imo not really in most contexts, i'd take it out of the filter

also make sure there is no Penistone problem

also there are some homophobic and racial slurs that are not covered by the filter
about 6 years

Greys says


Ally says


Greys says

also "transvestite" is not a slur LOL wut


it's considered outdated and derogatory


Should people be reported/given vios if they call a trans person a transvestite in a malicious way? Sure. The word itself? Not a slur.

eg.
1. "homosexual" ? not a slur. calling a gay person "dirty homo" maliciously > HC.


ZERO TOLERANCE
about 6 years

SHENANIGANS says

can we make crossdresser a slur next?


My point exactly.
about 6 years

Ally says


Greys says

also "transvestite" is not a slur LOL wut


it's considered outdated and derogatory


Should people be reported/given vios if they call a trans person a transvestite in a malicious way? Sure. The word itself? Not a slur.

eg.
1. "homosexual" ? not a slur. calling a gay person "dirty homo" maliciously > HC.
about 6 years
can we make crossdresser a slur next?
about 6 years
maybe just maybe disliking a very badly implemented filter does not and should not extend to slurs being okay :thonk: i know this is a hard concept for some of you brainlets to comprehend but slurs have heavy history and connotation it's not a "durr hurr just stop being too sensitive" situation
and you know exactly which slurs are supposed to have gotten the chop
about 6 years
Maybe people should stop pretending to be offended by words on a screen instead.
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Greys says

also "transvestite" is not a slur LOL wut


it's considered outdated and derogatory
about 6 years
imagine epicmafia.com without listening to pranay caps locking in panic
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that link is a virus