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Is the filter going to be loosened?

shayneismyname
about 6 years

This is mostly directed at Lucid ofc.

I know perhaps it is a bit early, but ultimately it's down to one person's decision, so I'm curious what the intention of the filter is. I know my understanding of what the filter would be was to be used against racial slurs, the worst of the worse. You know the ones. Words 99% of users will never even say. I figured I wouldn't even be aware the filter existed, since it was supposed to be targeted at hate speech. So... I was pretty thrown off when I found out I couldn't say "d00k." I feel like this was kinda a "gotcha" especially since this was going to be a "racial slurs" filter and not a "language" filter. I saw the list given to you (https://pastebin.com/Z6B0hbJn), and instead of going with those, you seem to have initially gone with a more general "language censorship" approach, which worries many of us. I assume you're going to fix that it currently chances "spicy" to "pear-y" and "Pakistan" to "Bananastan," so I'm not even going to ask about this.

Now I get that "b000h" and "d00k" can both be namecalling words, but this is what reports are for, no? I wouldn't even call them particular hateful words. Even "c00t" is a word that is though of as particularly taboo in the US to older people, but this connotation isn't the case (as I understand) in most English-speaking countries. "w000e" which is currently allowed, had very ugly specific (and arguably mysogynistic) connotation. I'm totally not saying "put who*e on the not allowed list." I'm just wondering... what direction are we going in, man? I assume you have some idea.

Now personally, from what I've seen, people don't like this change (or the whisper thing, but that's a completely different post. I really don't think anyone is seriously pushing you to allow racial slurs or whatnot. From what I've seen personally, it seems like overstepping when we are censored when casually cursing, which happens a lot. From what I've seen, EM users GENERALLY tend early 20s to even early 30s. Some late teens, yeah, but unless they're HIDING, I rarely see people below 17 from what I've seen. I don't know if this filter is perhaps because you want to move the site into a more family/conservative direction.

My personal experience on the site, up until now, is that, in addition to skewing older than many "game" sites, it is also very casual. Maybe that is because I play unranked? I don't know. However, in my experience, we love being joke-y, and often crude, and I'm still shocked how this site for whatever reason skews markedly LGBT+. A lot of us come here to relax and have fun and shoot the s00t. And I worry that one day it'll auto correct to "shoot the poopoo," especially when currently someone cant come on and complain that their boss is being a "b000h."

So I'm just kinda asking, what direction are we heading in?

blacksnakemoan
about 6 years

Edeaa says

i think d--k and c--t should be removed from the filter since having them censored means australians have lost half of their vocabulary and won't be able to play properly


kiwis and scots too
shayneismyname
about 6 years
Is b-tch really that much worse than who-e and sl-t to where it got singled out in the first place?
Edeaa
about 6 years
i think d--k and c--t should be removed from the filter since having them censored means australians have lost half of their vocabulary and won't be able to play properly
shayneismyname
about 6 years

Edeaa says


shayneismyname says


Rydia says

people barely used racial slurs prior to the fruit era of epicmafia and i don't really care if people who like to use those words feel threatened or attacked by the censors since there's rarely a context or situation where they are appropriate anyway so it's w/e

we're here to play mafia, not debate politics, which means at the end of the day there's no reason to call somebody a or a or a in the middle of a game anyway


did you read the thread at all? we're not talking about racial slurs


the dystopian future you outline in the original post will not occur so stop being worried and chill, you apple apple blueberry


okay, then can't the 3 words outlined be removed from the filter?
Edeaa
about 6 years

shayneismyname says


Rydia says

people barely used racial slurs prior to the fruit era of epicmafia and i don't really care if people who like to use those words feel threatened or attacked by the censors since there's rarely a context or situation where they are appropriate anyway so it's w/e

we're here to play mafia, not debate politics, which means at the end of the day there's no reason to call somebody a or a or a in the middle of a game anyway


did you read the thread at all? we're not talking about racial slurs


the dystopian future you outline in the original post will not occur so stop being worried and chill, you apple apple blueberry
shayneismyname
about 6 years

Rydia says

people barely used racial slurs prior to the fruit era of epicmafia and i don't really care if people who like to use those words feel threatened or attacked by the censors since there's rarely a context or situation where they are appropriate anyway so it's w/e

we're here to play mafia, not debate politics, which means at the end of the day there's no reason to call somebody a or a or a in the middle of a game anyway


did you read the thread at all? we're not talking about racial slurs
Rydia
about 6 years
people barely used racial slurs prior to the fruit era of epicmafia and i don't really care if people who like to use those words feel threatened or attacked by the censors since there's rarely a context or situation where they are appropriate anyway so it's w/e

we're here to play mafia, not debate politics, which means at the end of the day there's no reason to call somebody a or a or a in the middle of a game anyway
shayneismyname
about 6 years
well lucid d9idn't reply to any of them afaik, so I figured I'd make one and my main question really was "is this the direction the site is moving in" e.g. will there be more censors and whatnot added, or if some of the more odd censors be removed
blacksnakemoan
about 6 years
I don't think you're dumb for wanting it fixed. I think you're dumb for thinking that yet ANOTHER thread is going to help.

This is the tenth or eleventh thread that's still here and some have been deleted already.
shayneismyname
about 6 years
>calls us **twats**
>bc we wish we could say **d_cks** in-game
>mfw someone uses slang for a genetalia in the middle of telling us we're dumb for wanting to do the same
shayneismyname
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

can't believe you dumb twats can't see a connection between thirty threads about a filter and lucid ignoring you



>calls us **twats**
>bc we wish we could say **d_cks** in-game
>mfw someone uses slang for a genetalia in the middle of telling us we're dumb for wanting to do the same
& also

shayneismyname says

I made this thread to talk about this issue to Lucid, not to you.


If you'd please just, leave and not come back to this thread.
blacksnakemoan
about 6 years

Greys says

I wish d*ck was unfiltered just so I could properly say the following phrase.

Damn, blacksnakemoan, surprised you can still breathe wiith admin's d*ck in your mouth.

Let us know if you need us to call 911 or something.


hmmmm

Pinks says

This site has become total garbage overrun by toxic a'ssholes and trolls. Not a day passes where one of the bullies' crew harrasses others or gets into arguments. You can barley get through a game anymore.. This sh'it is not being moderated harshly enough. I'm stepping back too for very similar reasons.


can't believe you dumb twats can't see a connection between thirty threads about a filter and lucid ignoring you
linkrager
about 6 years
Blacksnakemoan The Woke, Power Hungry Outcast Schools Randoms On The Internet About Not Capitalising Words Like The Worthless Trashcan That He Is.
quasimodo
about 6 years
filtering words but playing a game about killing people
Greys
about 6 years
I wish d*ck was unfiltered just so I could properly say the following phrase.

Damn, blacksnakemoan, surprised you can still breathe wiith admin's d*ck in your mouth.

Let us know if you need us to call 911 or something.
shayneismyname
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

If you can't figure out why someone who's currently got about thirty roles to make, two filters to adjust, and an active user numbers problem, isn't really receptive to a tonne of angsty teens enraged they can't be racist or swear demanding he change something, I'm not going to explain it to you.


I mean, I think issues that effect every game (the filter and the caps issue) are more important than brainstorming a bunch of new roles, but that's fine. I made this thread to talk about this issue to Lucid, not to you.
quasimodo
about 6 years
excuse me but the filter is anti-semitic
blacksnakemoan
about 6 years
If you can't figure out why someone who's currently got about thirty roles to make, two filters to adjust, and an active user numbers problem, isn't really receptive to a tonne of angsty teens enraged they can't be racist or swear demanding he change something, I'm not going to explain it to you.
shayneismyname
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says


shayneismyname says

And this is what I've suggested, yet he hasnt replied to it.


Once again, probably because people have been going ballistic for the better part of two (three?) days now.

lmao


Why is that a reason not to reply to my suggestion?
blacksnakemoan
about 6 years

shayneismyname says

And this is what I've suggested, yet he hasnt replied to it.


Once again, probably because people have been going ballistic for the better part of two (three?) days now.

lmao
sl0nderman
about 6 years
a filter is not intrinsically a bad thing but too strict of a filter right now risks fracturing the already fragile playerbase
shayneismyname
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says


shayneismyname says

I am unfamiliar with the racial slur "d_ick" What race is this racial slur targeted at?


It's probably banned because it's gendered. I don't agree but whatever. You can say f*ck and sh*t in game again, and a bunch of other words with no connotations.

The only ones which are still banned which probably shouldn't be are c*nt, b*tch, and d*ck.

There's also one or two uh.. derivatives of slurs that aren't banned but should be


And this is what I've suggested, yet he hasnt replied to it.
blacksnakemoan
about 6 years

shayneismyname says

I am unfamiliar with the racial slur "d_ick" What race is this racial slur targeted at?


It's probably banned because it's gendered. I don't agree but whatever. You can say f*ck and sh*t in game again, and a bunch of other words with no connotations.

The only ones which are still banned which probably shouldn't be are c*nt, b*tch, and d*ck.

There's also one or two uh.. derivatives of slurs that aren't banned but should be
TeGamer
about 6 years
hi
gameshowmaster
about 6 years
Also k_ike isn't censored, that doesn't help your case of just trying to censor slurs