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Is the filter going to be loosened?

about 6 years

This is mostly directed at Lucid ofc.

I know perhaps it is a bit early, but ultimately it's down to one person's decision, so I'm curious what the intention of the filter is. I know my understanding of what the filter would be was to be used against racial slurs, the worst of the worse. You know the ones. Words 99% of users will never even say. I figured I wouldn't even be aware the filter existed, since it was supposed to be targeted at hate speech. So... I was pretty thrown off when I found out I couldn't say "d00k." I feel like this was kinda a "gotcha" especially since this was going to be a "racial slurs" filter and not a "language" filter. I saw the list given to you (https://pastebin.com/Z6B0hbJn), and instead of going with those, you seem to have initially gone with a more general "language censorship" approach, which worries many of us. I assume you're going to fix that it currently chances "spicy" to "pear-y" and "Pakistan" to "Bananastan," so I'm not even going to ask about this.

Now I get that "b000h" and "d00k" can both be namecalling words, but this is what reports are for, no? I wouldn't even call them particular hateful words. Even "c00t" is a word that is though of as particularly taboo in the US to older people, but this connotation isn't the case (as I understand) in most English-speaking countries. "w000e" which is currently allowed, had very ugly specific (and arguably mysogynistic) connotation. I'm totally not saying "put who*e on the not allowed list." I'm just wondering... what direction are we going in, man? I assume you have some idea.

Now personally, from what I've seen, people don't like this change (or the whisper thing, but that's a completely different post. I really don't think anyone is seriously pushing you to allow racial slurs or whatnot. From what I've seen personally, it seems like overstepping when we are censored when casually cursing, which happens a lot. From what I've seen, EM users GENERALLY tend early 20s to even early 30s. Some late teens, yeah, but unless they're HIDING, I rarely see people below 17 from what I've seen. I don't know if this filter is perhaps because you want to move the site into a more family/conservative direction.

My personal experience on the site, up until now, is that, in addition to skewing older than many "game" sites, it is also very casual. Maybe that is because I play unranked? I don't know. However, in my experience, we love being joke-y, and often crude, and I'm still shocked how this site for whatever reason skews markedly LGBT+. A lot of us come here to relax and have fun and shoot the s00t. And I worry that one day it'll auto correct to "shoot the poopoo," especially when currently someone cant come on and complain that their boss is being a "b000h."

So I'm just kinda asking, what direction are we heading in?

about 6 years
More than half of those things are words I have never seen before. They have probably never been used by any mainstream people since like the 1800s
about 6 years

admin says


MarshmallowCream says

Why don't we just take the chat portion away to where we can only use a drop down list of phrases during game play? That will completely rid the site of all hate speech!


because getting rid of a few racial slurs from the site mean you totally can't express yourself anymore. right.


I am unfamiliar with the racial slur "d_ick" What race is this racial slur targeted at?
about 6 years

shayneismyname says


shayneismyname says

Certainly! Like in the post, I thought that it was going to just be racial slurs getting censored. This is going to be a profane post, so forgive me lol.

d_ick should be uncensored, like how c_ock is uncensored.
c_unt should be uncensored, like p_ussy is
b_itch should be uncensored, like a_sshole and w_hore are


What do you think of this?

about 6 years

admin says


MarshmallowCream says

Why don't we just take the chat portion away to where we can only use a drop down list of phrases during game play? That will completely rid the site of all hate speech!


because getting rid of a few racial slurs from the site mean you totally can't express yourself anymore. right.


If all you removed was slurs I'd buy this BS excuse.
about 6 years

admin says


MarshmallowCream says

Why don't we just take the chat portion away to where we can only use a drop down list of phrases during game play? That will completely rid the site of all hate speech!


because getting rid of a few racial slurs from the site mean you totally can't express yourself anymore. right.



admin says


SweetMelody says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


Just because people are playing offended, doesn't mean it hurts them.


i disagree with this statement


god damn this is good
about 6 years
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about 6 years

MarshmallowCream says

Why don't we just take the chat portion away to where we can only use a drop down list of phrases during game play? That will completely rid the site of all hate speech!


because getting rid of a few racial slurs from the site mean you totally can't express yourself anymore. right.
about 6 years

admin says


SweetMelody says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


Just because people are playing offended, doesn't mean it hurts them.


i disagree with this statement


Stop using "hate speech" as an excuse to filter words that don't need to be filtered. Read shayne's post.
about 6 years

admin says


SweetMelody says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


Just because people are playing offended, doesn't mean it hurts them.


i disagree with this statement


Trying to remove HC is an unwinnable battle. You should trust ur moderators to do their job and trust the community to report those breaking rules.

Censor words like f-word and n-word..and leave the rest to the community.

Also remove CAP filter also man please.
about 6 years

shayneismyname says

Certainly! Like in the post, I thought that it was going to just be racial slurs getting censored. This is going to be a profane post, so forgive me lol.

d_ick should be uncensored, like how c_ock is uncensored.
c_unt should be uncensored, like p_ussy is
b_itch should be uncensored, like a_sshole and w_hore are


What do you think of this?
about 6 years

SweetMelody says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


Just because people are playing offended, doesn't mean it hurts them.


i disagree with this statement
about 6 years

Songin says


projectmatt says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


censoring racial slurs & hate speech is a good idea. however, i definitely think that "lighter" curse words like b*tch or d*ck (along with typing in caps) should be uncensored.




I agree with this. Things that can be used for hate speech against someone's race/sex/gender/religion/nationality should be censored to avoid any potential harassment on the site.

However things that just swear words without any non-bigoted meaning should be optionally censored for the user.


for what it's worth, i don't think censoring words is going to help the site v much at all.

the mods need to be stricter on hateful comments & racist behavior, and make it clear that there's zero tolerance for it. until then, censoring words is kind of pointless.
about 6 years

Songin says


projectmatt says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


censoring racial slurs & hate speech is a good idea. however, i definitely think that "lighter" curse words like b*tch or d*ck (along with typing in caps) should be uncensored.




I agree with this. Things that can be used for hate speech against someone's race/sex/gender/religion/nationality should be censored to avoid any potential harassment on the site.

However things that just swear words without any non-bigoted meaning should be optionally censored for the user.


Also, you agree with this person who says that b_itch should be uncensored, but then go on to say that "things that can be used as hate speech against one's sex should be censored." Is b_itch not a word that could be considered a hateful word to call a woman?
about 6 years
Why don't we just take the chat portion away to where we can only use a drop down list of phrases during game play? That will completely rid the site of all hate speech!
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

I am not personally offended by anything of the sort but I think one of the dumbest things to do in an argument is call people snowflakes

If you have to resort to that then you have nothing else of value to say


Oh so you're saying you were personally offended by the word snowflake?

Better censor that one, too.
about 6 years
>Plenty of good posts about what words should and shouldn't be censored (with slurs staying censored)

>Admin reads one person's post just so he can respond: "OMG NO SLURS ARE HATE SPEECH WE MUST BAN ALL PROFANITY"

Way to care enough to read your users' input.
about 6 years

shayneismyname says


Songin says


projectmatt says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


censoring racial slurs & hate speech is a good idea. however, i definitely think that "lighter" curse words like b*tch or d*ck (along with typing in caps) should be uncensored.




I agree with this. Things that can be used for hate speech against someone's race/sex/gender/religion/nationality should be censored to avoid any potential harassment on the site.

However things that just swear words without any non-bigoted meaning should be optionally censored for the user.


If some users are going to be seeing a completely different chat than other users, perhaps we should make a Junior lobby.


No one would see anything different. Just a simple censor of the word in use.

e.g:

"F_uck you all" - Noncensored
"**** you all" -Censored
about 6 years

Songin says


projectmatt says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


censoring racial slurs & hate speech is a good idea. however, i definitely think that "lighter" curse words like b*tch or d*ck (along with typing in caps) should be uncensored.




I agree with this. Things that can be used for hate speech against someone's race/sex/gender/religion/nationality should be censored to avoid any potential harassment on the site.

However things that just swear words without any non-bigoted meaning should be optionally censored for the user.


If some users are going to be seeing a completely different chat than other users, perhaps we should make a Junior lobby.
about 6 years

projectmatt says


admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


censoring racial slurs & hate speech is a good idea. however, i definitely think that "lighter" curse words like b*tch or d*ck (along with typing in caps) should be uncensored.




I agree with this. Things that can be used for hate speech against someone's race/sex/gender/religion/nationality should be censored to avoid any potential harassment on the site.

However things that just swear words without any non-bigoted meaning should be optionally censored for the user.
about 6 years

HD40307 says

We're becoming roblox-ized.
Everything will be censored soon. :o


I shidded and farded
about 6 years

admin says

i disagree, hate speech hurts people. take a look at the news


that's exactly what the hc vio exists for. the reality is, automated filters are utter shite. you can block more and more stuff but you'll eventually reach the point where you block actual words that have other usage or you just give up. leave it to the mods to give out vios instead of trying to rely on a poorly implemented word filter. see also:

about 6 years

Zhuorb says


shayneismyname says

It seems way too PG-13 imo for a site that skews towards people in their mid 20s.


nah the median age around here is usually 15
also explains why there's always high school-esque cliques going around for everything


20
about 6 years
I am not personally offended by anything of the sort but I think one of the dumbest things to do in an argument is call people snowflakes

If you have to resort to that then you have nothing else of value to say
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

Ah yes, the best and most educated argument point that "feelings don't matter. turn off your computer. snowflakes are everywhere"


Sorry I'm not a hormonal teenager who can't read a word and not get personally offended by it. What a person says about you says more about who they are than it does about you. Take that to heart. Stop worrying about troubled teenagers calling you names.
about 6 years
Ah yes, the best and most educated argument point that "feelings don't matter. turn off your computer. snowflakes are everywhere"