I find it strange that someone with a spotless record would be suspended for 24 hours after winning a game - TWO DAYS AFTER THE GAME. I also find it borderline libelous to imply that someone who has a 64% winrate is "throwing games".
Here's a question I posit to you: If honestly claiming is gamethrowing, why is a moderator encouraging me to do it in game? Not to single out charley, because I don't even think that what I'm doing is gamethrowing, but if it is then what she was doing was clearly "encouraging rule breakage" or whatever other nonsense is in the rules for this site nowadays.
my personal thought was that he was intentionally playing against his win condition in order to upkeep that meta so it could be Both realistically
but yea i'll discuss it and change it if other mods think i should
I don't care what arbitrary violation I get. I've known the moderation on here has been a joke since day 1. Just don't suspend me out of games for no reason when I'm mostly winning and causing no problems.
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if op concedes and admits that my dinner with andy is the best song on the mighty ocean then i will defend him
I mean, even if he gets no vio here, he's gonna be fcked every time he flips maf now if he continues this. So it will eventually lead to one. His strat is basically over.
deletedover 6 years
if op concedes and admits that my dinner with andy is the best song on the mighty ocean then i will defend him
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my personal thought was that he was intentionally playing against his win condition in order to upkeep that meta so it could be Both realistically
but yea i'll discuss it and change it if other mods think i should
ya like i said back on page 1 if it's just someone making a joke it's not throwing and i don't believe that was op's intent (and i don't think anyone can genuinely say that they believe he was joking or using wifom lol)
Exactly. I see OP's intent in being to ensure he keeps his personal meta going, not to throw the game. Mostly why I'm advocating for the report to be OT'd to Cheating or OGI.
deletedover 6 years
ya like i said back on page 1 if it's just someone making a joke it's not throwing and i don't believe that was op's intent (and i don't think anyone can genuinely say that they believe he was joking or using wifom lol)
there's a difference between the intent to make a joke and the intent to honestly claim your role as mafia, they can say after the fact "it was wifom" but their intention was not wifom, their intention was to genuinely claim their role of hooker
This is what I wanted to know.
So long as a player's intent isn't to throw, I really didn't see any problem with doing things like claiming maf as a joke throughout the day.
i.e. "X are you scum?" "Of course I am"
Sorry for giving ya a rough time, but it just didn't make much sense to me, and I wanted to get a better understanding of what logic went on here.
deletedover 6 years
i've already asked the mod chat if i should ot it to something else fwiw but right now i'm keeping it on throwing until someone wants to discuss it w/ me there
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there's a difference between the intent to make a joke and the intent to honestly claim your role as mafia, they can say after the fact "it was wifom" but their intention was not wifom, their intention was to genuinely claim their role of hooker
Then what's the difference in saying "GG I was maf" and saying "I'm hooker." If you take out OP's meta, don't the two phrases mean almost the same thing?
deletedover 6 years
all i'm reading here is "i'm salty that i got lynched as town on lylo and want to blame someone"
deletedover 6 years
it's on a case by case basis / if someone is obviously joking about being scum that's different, but if you hardclaim scum regardless of alignment that's throwing, even if town were to hardclaim mafia that's still a throw lol
it was a joke, people say "gg i was mafia" all the damn time, it's just an unfortunate coincidence that he rolled miller
the vio was for the single occurence lol - hardclaiming hooker is throwing
See I double checked the game and didn't see him hardclaim hooker outside of his day 1 claim (in which all he says is "I'm hooker", then goes on to say it's a joke/troll claim)
So is it considered hardclaiming based on his meta that's shown on his profile / username? (If the answer to this is "no", then is the phrase "I'm hooker" now an instant GT vio?)
If the answer to the above is yes, then shouldn't those who pushed for a lynch based on that meta be given a warning for OGI as they used his meta posted on profile for the lynch, or cheating through use of meta across several games?
Edit: Just trying to get a good understanding of the decision of this vio, as it may stand for a precedent for future occurances.
About whether or not the hardclaiming had to do with with his meta or not. I did not get an answer so I filed the report and supplied the information I was given.
Also note that I said I don't think either are worth a gamethrow vio, but rather I think that OP's should be OT'd to cheating.
According to the report this topic is about, and what mods have said in this thread, this report should have been a gamethrowing violation.
Although I don't feel like either of these are gamethrowing, and that INeverLie should have gotten a cheating vio, but consistancy is generally a good practice.
saying "gg i was maf" is not a gamethrowing violation lmao you're ridiculous, it was a joke and he wasn't expecting to flip miller
According to the report this topic is about, and what mods have said in this thread, this report should have been a gamethrowing violation.
Although I don't feel like either of these are gamethrowing, and that INeverLie should have gotten a cheating vio, but consistancy is generally a good practice.
let's create a utopia where everyone honestly claims their role every game and winrates become universally higher at the cost of making all setups 100% townsided.