I find it strange that someone with a spotless record would be suspended for 24 hours after winning a game - TWO DAYS AFTER THE GAME. I also find it borderline libelous to imply that someone who has a 64% winrate is "throwing games".
Here's a question I posit to you: If honestly claiming is gamethrowing, why is a moderator encouraging me to do it in game? Not to single out charley, because I don't even think that what I'm doing is gamethrowing, but if it is then what she was doing was clearly "encouraging rule breakage" or whatever other nonsense is in the rules for this site nowadays.
Yes mist that’s right and I see you are taking it to the next level with the number of games on your stats page of the broken werewolf setups where every player wins every game, you just have to click through. I guess that works but you can’t do that in main lobby
deletedover 6 years
let's create a utopia where everyone honestly claims their role every game and winrates become universally higher at the cost of making all setups 100% townsided.
Also, if everyone played like you, claiming mafia when they rolled it, everyone’s win rate would increase to around 70 percent, since 70 percent of the players (town) would win each game. This is the idea that the hordes of anime avatar pod people use to improve their win rates, they all play together and the mafia essentially throw each game.
Since you are trying your best to achieve a 70 percent win rate, you are playing towards your win condition across games, and should be rewarded, not punished.
Cheat once every few months and your win rate will improve without you being suspended. Just never go above the number of active vios required to be suspended. It also works with throwing games and trolling.
So to the OP, vios don’t matter unless you get too many at once, so don’t worry about it.
I am qualified to speak on how to improve your win rate because of my excellent win rate
Honestly, INeverLie, your meta is bastardizing the purpose of the game. Reading people should be subjective, and if you have a rule every single game it eliminates the possibility of fair play. You're not a "good player" because of this meta, the meta gives you an unfair advantage.
I'm not saying you're not a good player, but your 64% winrate is not because you are being an excellent scumhunter, its because people have no choice but to believe whatever role you claim because of the precedent you have set. This kind of play has no place in competitive gaming.
Its considered a trust tell @ mods. That's considered cheating not GT.
On the other hand, INeverLieAboutMyRole all you have to do is lie about your role ONE GAME that's all, for it not to be considered a trust tell, and it will be no vio. Because you can show the game and claim it could be wifom.
See I double checked the game and didn't see him hardclaim hooker outside of his day 1 claim (in which all he says is "I'm hooker", then goes on to say it's a joke/troll claim)
So is it considered hardclaiming based on his meta that's shown on his profile / username? (If the answer to this is "no", then is the phrase "I'm hooker" now an instant GT vio?)
If the answer to the above is yes, then shouldn't those who pushed for a lynch based on that meta be given a warning for OGI as they used his meta posted on profile for the lynch, or cheating through use of meta across several games?
Edit: Just trying to get a good understanding of the decision of this vio, as it may stand for a precedent for future occurances.
What's worrying to me is that the current playerbase is letting a player who essentially plays every game with their role unhidden achieve a higher winrate and almost any legitimate player. Really doesn't reflect well on us does it.
I approve of his choice of avatar however.
deletedover 6 years
the vio was for the single occurence lol - hardclaiming hooker is throwing
deletedover 6 years
that's ogi fam
it's on a case by case basis / if someone is obviously joking about being scum that's different, but if you hardclaim scum regardless of alignment that's throwing, even if town were to hardclaim mafia that's still a throw lol
I can agree with this. Claiming your true role every game as meta can be disadvantageous, and even game throwing if done enough (Or extreme use of meta if abused by others in the game i.e. cheating)
However it should be expressed more openly that the VIO wasn't for the single occurance, rather that it was for doing it across multiple games and meta abusing.
Edit: When I say cheating I mean others using this person's meta to ensure their own victory.
It's gamethrowing because he did it in a "true meta" way - He claimed his role every time, his username is "INeverLieAboutMyRole" after all. If you claim mafia as PR as "wifom", or if you claim town as mafia, it's not gamethrowing as you are still playing towards your wincon. However, claiming your true role every time is indeed gamethrowing.
