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Did I throw game?

Memoji
over 6 years

Guys,

I'd like to bring out this game and collect your opinions with the subject perspective.

Please help me review this game, with turn on the vote log & time span https://epicmafia.com/game/6673648/review

Downvote if you think I did throw game

Upvote if you think I did not.

Leave comment if you have any opinions.

Long story short: I got a GT vio for this game and mod suspend my trophy.

Mori sent private message to various mods and blacksnakemoan report and self vio it https://epicmafia.com/report/253996

Then I appealed the report: https://epicmafia.com/report/254000

The relate report here: https://epicmafia.com/report/254002

GrannyPixel was blacksmith in this game, who admits this is not a GT. She was in game so she knows what exactly happened.

The final result from mod team is Sustained.

Mori sent PM to mods with her opinion that I used Phoenixi as a GT acc to make her lose while she was #20 and Memoji was about #6

In statistic of Mori:

Here is the proof about my screen buggy

With MisterPresident's spamming votes and drop-line vote due to long name, I mishammerred on hooker

I need to hear more opinions. Thanks,

Phoenixo – Memoji

Torreador
over 6 years

Ally says

denial already explained that there was a pause


Is there a "timestamp plus" option when you're modded? Because i call bs on this one.



Ally says

just bc he doesn't throw every single game he plays w a runner doesn't mean he's not throwing


Phoe is actually a mastermind who pinpointed exactly that Mori would end up less than 60 pts above him and therefore played all games with him/her/it seriously but threw exactly one. And the one he threw, he obviously meant it 100%. Gotcha.

Look guys, what is the issue here? Is it that you mods, as a team, don't dare go back on a decision you made by pride? Is it that, as people suggested, Mori has more pull than we give him/her/it credit for? Because what I see is that you guys see every issue with the lens of "he gt" and making the necessary justifications afterwards. The numerous arguments pointing at Phoe being in good faith (he played multiple games 1, he didnt know mori was running 2, he won his cc 3, he thought about who to hit in autowin 4, he made a decent call in autowin kill 5, he correctly lawed hooker n2 6, he didnt aim to get lynched 7) are swept away with ridiculous explanations, and you are banking all in on one moment in the game and the fact that he must be a mastermind who prepared excuses for when he got reported and knowingly threw a game by putting himself in 50% autowin 50% autolose. Do you guys see how ridiculous this is?
xela
over 6 years
everyone else running this round that didn't trophy, you guys honestly lost to someone who says "i donate blood, lynch me lynch me" everygame LOLS
bewildered
over 6 years

Torreador says

Hey, mods.

I believe i explained in the appeal how president spamming would mess up someone voting. Care to explain that?

Also, Phoenixi played the two games prior to the game he got reported with Mori...and won both, without issues. Care to explain that?

Also, Mori was more than 20th at the time of the game and would hardly be considered a runner. Care to explain that?


Congrats jeff btw on making yet another thread all about you.


Thank you for going through the previous games.
bewildered
over 6 years

JeffreyAaron says

You should have got better lawyers. Having Torreador and Bewildered on your side is EEEEEEK.


MY NAMES JEFF!
bewildered
over 6 years
Sorry nothing personal against Mori:
https://epicmafia.com/game/6674572 Free win that is just as controversial as this game due to the fact you can argue the shot to keep the game ranked was GT as there were no intentions to win (no pr claims before it). Okay maybe that one was a stretch: https://epicmafia.com/game/6673767 Allowed to claim oracle and hammer oracle (randomly)...Controversial decisions by Pinks by slipping & mafia crew by not claiming cop: https://epicmafia.com/game/6668516
My point being, there are games that rely entirely on luck and some are just easy, there are probably some that i haven't checked with some friends that will influence their decisions not to hammer Mori and would rather hammer their counterclaim. I am not going through more games, I have nothing against Mori, I just would like the moderators to be fair and give Memoji that bronze trophy.
someonerunmeover
over 6 years
Hey I've played with memoji before and i believe they are a legitimate player, i read the game and honestly it just looks like something really unlucky followed by bad play, neither of which are game throw. Hope yall at the mod team can change your mind :/
JeffreyAaron
over 6 years
You should have got better lawyers. Having Torreador and Bewildered on your side is EEEEEEK.
deletedover 6 years

Torreador says

I believe i explained in the appeal how president spamming would mess up someone voting. Care to explain that?


denial already explained that there was a pause


Torreador says

Also, Phoenixi played the two games prior to the game he got reported with Mori...and won both, without issues. Care to explain that?


just bc he doesn't throw every single game he plays w a runner doesn't mean he's not throwing


Torreador says

Also, Mori was more than 20th at the time of the game and would hardly be considered a runner. Care to explain that?


20th is still on the leaderboard w a visible chance at running based on how many hearts she had in comparison
JeffreyAaron
over 6 years

Torreador says



Congrats jeff btw on making yet another thread all about you.


Ty & Np :)
deletedover 6 years
bewildered you're the one accusing people of throwing and refusing to back it up, choke
Torreador
over 6 years
Hey, mods.

I believe i explained in the appeal how president spamming would mess up someone voting. Care to explain that?

Also, Phoenixi played the two games prior to the game he got reported with Mori...and won both, without issues. Care to explain that?

Also, Mori was more than 20th at the time of the game and would hardly be considered a runner. Care to explain that?


Congrats jeff btw on making yet another thread all about you.
Mori
over 6 years
My only question is where is pikachu, he trophied without knowing
bewildered
over 6 years
And ouch, Ally, responding to me like you did in this game: https://epicmafia.com/game/6675689/review Why are you so triggered about my opinion if it doesn't matter?
Harkinian
over 6 years
OP was a lot more sympathetic at the start of this thread than how he ended up at the end.
bewildered
over 6 years

Ally says

this was discussed thoroughly by anyone on the mod team that cared to state their opinion, which was several of us


denial says

There was a pause before he voted. Two votes were on him and two were on his partner.

If one of you wants to explain why he would try to mess up the cross by randomly voting people, be my guest as that's normally a move reserved by confirmed mafia.

Just go back and reread the voting patterns in that game, rather than looking at one point where mrpres voted/I voted and thinking "oh that's why he made that mistake" mrpres telegraphed his hammer earlier before Phoenix hammered as well

There's just more evidence to support him throwing rather than him making a mistake.


denial's post pretty much explains the gist of why we chose to do what we did, and if you read the games on his running account vs his non-running account when he's playing with runners there's a clear and distinct difference


People use alternate accounts to try different things, to act differently and play differently, I can understand why you would give this a violation but also taking away a trophy that is hard to get considering all the time it takes to play and the amount of grudge games that go on and blatant small amounts of throwing for certain people. The voting spam may have directly caused his initial wrong voting and should definitely be punished and I feel this should be noted instead an actual violation but if you are going to continue with the violation you should atleast let him trophy as it didnt effect the outcome of the leaderboard. He won't be able to play his last heart out to even get the win so all in all he's getting the bronze and Mori couldn't take gold with that win.
Bookkeeper
over 6 years
unsuspend him dum mods and give president a spamming vio. easy fix.
deletedover 6 years
this was discussed thoroughly by anyone on the mod team that cared to state their opinion, which was several of us


denial says

There was a pause before he voted. Two votes were on him and two were on his partner.

If one of you wants to explain why he would try to mess up the cross by randomly voting people, be my guest as that's normally a move reserved by confirmed mafia.

Just go back and reread the voting patterns in that game, rather than looking at one point where mrpres voted/I voted and thinking "oh that's why he made that mistake" mrpres telegraphed his hammer earlier before Phoenix hammered as well

There's just more evidence to support him throwing rather than him making a mistake.


denial's post pretty much explains the gist of why we chose to do what we did, and if you read the games on his running account vs his non-running account when he's playing with runners there's a clear and distinct difference
bewildered
over 6 years
Guys I believe you have changed the topic and I would like you to get back on track. This guy shouldn't really be disbarred from trophying for such a controversial game that didn't effect the outcome of the ranked leaderboard.
D3xTr0m3th0rph4n
over 6 years

Mori says

Speaking of low IQ, I just noticed barlcro is carlbro.


noob
D3xTr0m3th0rph4n
over 6 years
ah,.well yes i am a sxxty person, but I did not mean to upset you..I don't think you look dumb, and your completely right ab your arguement as far as im concerned.

My humor gets me in trouble online x,x
Mori
over 6 years
Speaking of low IQ, I just noticed barlcro is carlbro.
barlcro
over 6 years
whats wrong with being a person? they have historically been marginalized
JeffreyAaron
over 6 years
Sorry dude but you gotta be a shïtty person to think that “I like to laugh” is an acceptable excuse for trying to drag a friend/make them look dumb publicly.
D3xTr0m3th0rph4n
over 6 years
I'm sorry Jeff, I shouldnt joke about things that I know are important to you..but god damn it..I like to laugh..
Mori
over 6 years

barlcro says

please don't call me sherlock, its a slur for the high iq people =(


I don't really think it applies to you then.