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https://epicmafia.com/report/248687 Can someone explain to me what's going on here? This is why setups with third can't be comped

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HoldenRye says

i made one of them lose by offering more points, they were both in autowin if they lynched me


yes but they were offered to betray because YOU decided that you liked one of them better and wanted to give them an unfair advantage by throwing how do you not understand that
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i made one of them lose by offering more points, they were both in autowin if they lynched me
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HoldenRye says

killer and spy no lynching is GAMETHROW there because they are in autowin and by no lynching they make their intentions to betray clear

the only way i won was if they gamethrew


it's not gamethrowing at all lmfao it's a risk but it's not gamethrowing, they aren't in autowin as evidenced by the fact that you made one of them lose
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Nobody says

If calcium/potchika said to Miles that if they didn't vote with them then they would kill Miles at night so he doesn't win and he's forced to be kingmaker in this situation is it still vioable for him playing kingmaker.


it's still his only shot at winning if he nls so yes, they could easily be lying and if he votes one of them during the day he is GUARANTEED the loss
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killer and spy no lynching is GAMETHROW there because they are in autowin and by no lynching they make their intentions to betray clear

the only way i won was if they gamethrew
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If calcium/potchika said to Miles that if they didn't vote with them then they would kill Miles at night so he doesn't win and he's forced to be kingmaker in this situation is it still vioable for him playing kingmaker.
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like at this point you've gotta be playing dumb to try and avoid the vio lmao
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it's not gamethrowing for the mafia/killer to no lynch

nling was the ONLY shot you had at winning even if it was slim and the fact that you still don't get that after having it explained to you 23598237 times is mindboggling
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also, for me to win it would have required both the mafia to gamethrow and no lynch, making them both aware the other intended on betraying.

i was in autoloss. if someone is in autoloss they really cant gamethrow
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mandevian says


PatrykSzczescie says

LOL they refunded this game!


Initially I was against the refund. But calcium benefitted unfairly. Holden knowingly picked a winner. Read what holden said. Although even bye was at fault. Bye should have known that if he tries to lynch the agent then he is at risk and the other scum will take advantage. Calcium took the opportunity given to him by two stupid people and he deserved the points for it. But later i figured holden wasnt just stupid.


i was dead my partner was the one alive pls dont call me stupid thank u
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HoldenRye says


Shoopie says

I disagree with the verdict if it's any consolation.
I see their side to it thoughl.
The information on how to behave was there and you outright said you're deciding the winner. Maybe if you kept your mouth shut and simply voted this wouldn't have happened.

I don't think you intentionally tried to lose by choosing a vote though. I think you genuinely thought you lost that game 100% and gave the win to your friend.


The thing is i wasnt thinking about the run, calcium had more points than bye and i let calcium win when i thought i was in autoloss. if i was focusing on my run i wouldve given bye the win

Either way, I get the extra caution considering so many running members were involved.





I agree with most of what was said, the only part I don't agree with is the third paragraph as even when focusing on your run giving calciumkid the win is better as bye had 5-6 more lives than calcium and the point difference wasn't too drastic so bye was in a better position. So even for them to consider their run they did the right thing

I don't see that bit in shoopies original comment but I thought I'd just post my opinion there for others to see anyway so it doesn't mislead anyone
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Shoopie says

I disagree with the verdict if it's any consolation.
I see their side to it thoughl.
The information on how to behave was there and you outright said you're deciding the winner. Maybe if you kept your mouth shut and simply voted this wouldn't have happened.

I don't think you intentionally tried to lose by choosing a vote though. I think you genuinely thought you lost that game 100% and gave the win to your friend.

Either way, I get the extra caution considering so many running members were involved.


I agree with most of what was said, the only part I don't agree with is the third paragraph as even when focusing on your run giving calciumkid the win is better as bye had 5-6 more lives than calcium and the point difference wasn't too drastic so bye was in a better position. So even for them to consider their run they did the right thing
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Christ.
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Shoopie is literally Jesus
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Shoopie says

I disagree with the verdict if it's any consolation.
I see their side to it thoughl.
The information on how to behave was there and you outright said you're deciding the winner. Maybe if you kept your mouth shut and simply voted this wouldn't have happened.

I don't think you intentionally tried to lose by choosing a vote though. I think you genuinely thought you lost that game 100% and gave the win to your friend.


The thing is i wasnt thinking about the run, calcium had more points than bye and i let calcium win when i thought i was in autoloss. if i was focusing on my run i wouldve given bye the win

Either way, I get the extra caution considering so many running members were involved.

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I disagree with the verdict if it's any consolation.
I see their side to it thoughl.
The information on how to behave was there and you outright said you're deciding the winner. Maybe if you kept your mouth shut and simply voted this wouldn't have happened.

I don't think you intentionally tried to lose by choosing a vote though. I think you genuinely thought you lost that game 100% and gave the win to your friend.

Either way, I get the extra caution from the mods considering so many running members were involved. Despite that fact, I disagree with the outcome.
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PatrykSzczescie says

LOL they refunded this game!


Initially I was against the refund. But calcium benefitted unfairly. Holden knowingly picked a winner. Read what holden said. Although even bye was at fault. Bye should have known that if he tries to lynch the agent then he is at risk and the other scum will take advantage. Calcium took the opportunity given to him by two stupid people and he deserved the points for it. But later i figured holden wasnt just stupid.
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LOL they refunded this game!
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This is gt.
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CoalDragon says

This rule is harsh but necessary it stops town from ‘choosing’ who they want to win which is essentially stealing a deserved win from the killer/mafia. Not GT in my opinion but there needs to be something to stop town choosing who wins, especially in a comp setup.


only GT because you are helping out one instead of another. you can be "throwing" for who you want
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This rule is harsh but necessary it stops town from ‘choosing’ who they want to win which is essentially stealing a deserved win from the killer/mafia. Not GT in my opinion but there needs to be something to stop town choosing who wins, especially in a comp setup.
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She's gonna cry in mod chat and all the mods are gonna come to her rescue and save her because its cool to hate on Holden/Miles.
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bye 4h 35m
Worth noting that I'm running and stand a good shot at surpassing his other account (holdenrye) on leaderboard and by doing that he ensured I wouldn't get points from it.

lmao
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PatrykSzczescie says

Can a mod deal with this issue? It's arousing


Speak for yourself