So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.
Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.
Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.
Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.
Murders aren't the only issue. Suicide is too. Having access to guns means that in the heat of the moment, an action can be taken that wouldn't otherwise. Guns are far more effective killers than knives, ropes, pills, etc. Having more guns = easier deaths.
I gave you one rule... you couldnt use the label gun deaths. Which is entirely what that article is doing. No that a country that has guns would have higher rate of "gun deaths"
Gun Control needs to be changed fo sure..the reason mass shooting are on the rise is because the media makes it such a sensitive issue. We need more guns, not less.
EDIT: its bullllshit i can't legal own a gun because im convicted of a non-violent crime. I live in Illinois (we have the most strict gun laws, almost) but wut we do is go to gun shows in Indiana and slip a dude $400 and he'll slip you a brand new gun..come back to Illinois and resell it...gotta love loopholes
[quote=Devante] The argument stat is - you (America) take up 5% of the worlds population , but 50% of the worlds guns and 31 % of mass shootings ... guns can’t be the reason though .
And he could never show you that stat you asked for, because your corrupt politicians banned the CDC from ever doing research on gun violence
Theres other countries and researches than the cdc and US.
Just look at murder rates before and after a gun ban was introduced. You cant use the label "gun deaths" eithet.
The argument stat is - you (America) take up 5% of the worlds population , but 50% of the worlds guns and 31 % of mass shootings ... guns can’t be the reason though .
And he could never show you that stat you asked for, because your corrupt politicians banned the CDC from ever doing research on gun violence .
the same way i feel about them not doing it over its links to anti depressants. Or how i feel about any other corrupt lobbyists that make the rule of law here.
Hmm yes an ad hominem, you have sure pinned me in a corner.
Show me some stats that show removing guns lowers homicide rates. Or really does anything to curb terrorism.
You dont understand the gun culture in this country. You cant just take them away, no one would give them up. I think like 48% of gun owners in the world are in the US.
i live in new york i highly doubt a school shooting will happen
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the argument that people will just kill people in another way doesnt really hold up in arguing against handguns or assault rifles but i think it has merit against pump shotguns or bolt action rifles getting banned which really would be extremely inefficient at killing mulitple people
like yeah, u could easily kill a few people with them but ud almost definitely be able to do the same amount of damage with just a car, knife, poison, or a home made bomb so it seems negligible to get rid of thos things which serve legitimate purposes like home defense, hunting, or sport
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i dont know what u mean by the """black market""" but most of the guns used by school shooters and the like get them from one of a few options
1) just having them readily available in the home already
2) gun shows (they really dont bother to run background checks and its baffling)
3) craigslist (these are just secondhand guns from other places)
none of these options would be available if guns simply werent legal
tbh i always wondered if there was a shooting at my univ would i try to be the hero or just nope the f uck out of there
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automatic weapons have been banned in the states for years dawg, the issue right now is that assault rifles (semi-automatic stock) can easily be modified to become automatic
other issues being things like handguns are easily concealable and essentially extremely efficient at killing people
u know usually things get reformed based on the change in the social climate but idk maybe there's no reason to restrict AUTOMATIC WEAPONS
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they say the hardest person to win an argument with is an idiot.
"i'm against gun control coz if people wanna kill people then they're going to find other methods, so let's not make it harder for killers and let's not make it safer for the community"
america exists in their own ludicrous time capsule. while y'all sit around with your head up your own i'm gon continue to live in a country that acknowledges basic common sense.
Regardless nothing said in this thread will change anyone’s stance , I just know if I was American (thank god damn my mom got knocked up just a few km’s north of that sh*t hole) I would be standing with those kids protesting your corrupt, NRA paid idiots
How are y’all okay with the NRA having so much leverage over your officials that they literally blocked the cdc from ever even doing research on gun violence lmfao
