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So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.

Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.

Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.

Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.

Should gun control be changed?
89
Yes
16
No
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D3xTr0m3th0rph4n says

This is a doctor fault for using ssri as a blanket treatment


This is actually partially accurate in general, not sure ab this case
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GentIeman says

Yes mr armchair psychologist from a third world country telling me about my culture.



GentIeman says

Hmm yes an ad hominem, you have sure pinned me in a corner.

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This is a doctor fault for using ssri as a blanket treatment
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For the people who voted no, to me it just means you're okay with these types of shootings continuing to happen, or that you neglect the fact that unless the gun laws are changed, these types of shootings will continue to occur (probably/hopefully it's the latter). Something NEEDS to be done. Too many people are dying.
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Which makes sense because of how common they r prescribed for a multituse of mental disorders.

Although it is a fact ssris can cause drug psycosis
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Yes mr armchair psychologist from a third world country telling me about my culture.
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I believe the stat was the shooter was either recently put on or recently taken off an ssri
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i wonder if there is some sort of example to show how the united states is specially desensitized to mass spectacles of death, like maybe an atomic bomb or two
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i wonder what superstructure is dehumanizing people and their relations to others, and making people increansilly more mentally ill,, real tough nut to crack!!!
i wonder why american society is imersed in a millitaristic culture of gun worshiping and a cult of mass violence,, almost like the all the imperial wars and mass death you export and the support you give it see: all your support to the "troops" "the flag" "the millitary" SOMEHOW affects your culture and society????
i wonder if at the very foundation of the united states, there was some sort of mass death and dehumanization that is still today central to the american identity???
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shounen says

you are rarted



shounen says

you are rarted


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/abcs-child-psychiatry/201509/antidepressants-and-violence-link-in-search-cause%3famp

Lets just ban guns and ignore that school shootings shot up after these drugs were introduced.
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you are rarted
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shounen says


GentIeman says

I have said that the pharaceutical companies need to be looked into, on the drugs they are providing. 90% of these cases they are on some type of ssri or anti depressant. Clearly the help they are getting is failing.


ssris cant cure conduct disorder. either way help doesnt stop at drugs lol


they were still on them and that can induce violent behaviors
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GentIeman says

I have said that the pharaceutical companies need to be looked into, on the drugs they are providing. 90% of these cases they are on some type of ssri or anti depressant. Clearly the help they are getting is failing.


ssris cant cure conduct disorder. either way help doesnt stop at drugs lol
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maybe if yall emulated juche, there would no longer be any more mass shootings, just a thought
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shounen says

ok so the mental illness argument would only be valid if the people who say it actually cared about helping people with mental illness. they dont. yes, more things should be done to help people who may be at risk for violence and aggression. especially at an early age. early intervention for vulnerable people is absolutely necessary, and if we were able to help violent mentally ill individuals, violence would go down. some.

obviously not every act of violence, with a gun or otherwise, is committed by a mentally ill person. anyone and everyone has the capability to commit a murder or any other crime.

guns enable this. the "guns dont kill people, the people do" argument is absolute bullsh*t. if america had less guns, there would be less shootings. its really simple and i absolutely cannot wrap my head around people who disagree with the obvious statistics that prove america needs better gun control


This seems like a giant ptojection... I have said that the pharaceutical companies need to be looked into, on the drugs they are providing. 90% of these cases they are on some type of ssri or anti depressant. Clearly the help they are getting is failing.
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the only man that can fix america is bob avakian
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America can not have less guns, only gun control (which doesnt work)
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Devante says

@gentlemen , I’m currently at work and as a result can’t sit here and debunk each of your articles .

I did read that Washington post one

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/06/zero-correlation-between-state-homicide-rate-and-state-gun-laws/?utm_term=.41ce190facae

That is probably the most subjective article with the most inferred satay ever (by the author) where he says “if there is stricter gun laws MOST LIKELY the criminals would find another way to kill someone is, with a knife - my rebuttal is , I’d much rather get in a bar fight with someone with a knife over a gun.


If you want some substantial information , you can read the first 2 comments in said article where the two commenters (and that’s as far as I was able to read) pretty much debunked that nonsensical argument proving that stricter gun laws leads to less homocideb


Jesus they both bring up "gun crime" and "gun deaths". How hard is it for you to understand, that these are terrible measurements.

All data shows that these "gun deaths" will be replaced with something else. Murder rates has more to do with economic and social issues. Next to zero with available guns.

We are going to keep going in circles because you will use gun specific crime rates. Where i will say those need to be thrown in the trash because the other variables is causing the homicides, not the availibility of guns.
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Its not an American problem anyway. This start at the city level and ends with the state..school shootings r extremly isolated anyway
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ok so the mental illness argument would only be valid if the people who say it actually cared about helping people with mental illness. they dont. yes, more things should be done to help people who may be at risk for violence and aggression. especially at an early age. early intervention for vulnerable people is absolutely necessary, and if we were able to help violent mentally ill individuals, violence would go down. some.

obviously not every act of violence, with a gun or otherwise, is committed by a mentally ill person. anyone and everyone has the capability to commit a murder or any other crime.

guns enable this. the "guns dont kill people, the people do" argument is absolute bullsh*t. if america had less guns, there would be less shootings. its really simple and i absolutely cannot wrap my head around people who disagree with the obvious statistics that prove america needs better gun control
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Jimmy u know how many ppl drive without a damn license or on a revoked one. U dnt need to drive a car.

Devante i wonder how many school shootings have been prevented by intervention? and honestly I do believe school shoots r partly cause by a lack of empathy due to a lack of peer interaction in the real world.
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D3x, you know what’s funny reading this thread, and listening to the news .

Whenever there’s a shooting you guys are always like “someone knew something was wrong with this individual, they should’ve sought out he’ll for this person & spoken to him before he went over the edge”

There’s about 3 other countries currently telling y’all you’re crazy & you need help before you go over the edge and you’re like “I’m not crazy you.... don’t know what you’re talking about”
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lmao
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The thing about comparing cars to guns is that cars are heavily regulated. You can't drive one without a license, which you have to take a test for, keep the car registered every year with proper inspections, you have to renew your license, AND if you get a DUI even if you don't hurt anyone, you can get your license suspended
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I wasnt replying to u, but god dmn u were eager for some sort of attn huh?