So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.
Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.
Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.
Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.
Yes its their sons daughters, granparents and neighbors that are in the military. We have a large military and a good portiom are in it. Am i supposed to snub my brother and my grandpas etc?
Reflects on our culture how? If you talk about violemt crime. Theres multiple worlds here with that.
Non-hispanic whites have the same crime rates as countries in europe.
The US acts as the global power for all of Europe, saudia arabia and israel. Especially the last two theyre no better about imperialism and subjugating people.
Then during the time span you are giving millions died under communist russia. Then you also have communist russia.
I am not even a giant supporter of the US policies. I think we should have abided by Wilsons 14 pts and a lot of wars and troubles would have been avoided.
But as your big thing corporate and banker interests have little benifit in countries being left alone.
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Exactly this. To add on to point 3, there are millions of people who live in rural areas. Having a gun is almost recommended in the case of a burglary of some sort.
Im not telling you about your country and its culture. If you want to show me tangible evidence of what you are saying sure.
The begginning of every countrty has roots in dehumanization.
i wonder if at the very foundation of the united states, there was some sort of mass death and dehumanization that is still today central to the american identit
Every major country has been imperialist at one time. Whenever the US goes away some othe country will take up the mantle.
No one here really supports the wars. They support the troops in the way its their sons and daughters that are put in danger for their country.
almost like the all the imperial wars and mass death you export and the support you give it see: all your support to the "troops" "the flag" "the millitary" SOMEHOW affects your culture and society???? literally how r u debunking anything i said
goddamn read what i said again dumbass i said, america celebrates and put its foundation as central to its identity, founding fathers etc i never said americans support the wars, u absolute moron, the united states has always been an empire since its foundation, and that has reflections in its militarized culture, the violence the us exports today and since at least ww2 is unmatched and it reflects on ur culture troops in games, all the love for the flag national anthem, rotc, jrotc, plegde of allegiance, examples of a highly millitarized culture dingus
This isnt what i was saying at all. You are an outsider telling me what i value and how i interact with others, stating it as a fact.
Im not telling you about your country and its culture. If you want to show me tangible evidence of what you are saying sure.
The begginning of every countrty has roots in dehumanization. Every major country has been imperialist at one time. Whenever the US goes away some othe country will take up the mantle.
No one here really supports the wars. They support the troops in the way its their sons and daughters that are put in danger for their country.
hey its ur boy, mr too damn logical, mr debunk my stats, insults are ad hominem, im an authority on american culture cause i was born there, ppl who dont agree with r me r on meds and r crazy!
Im just trying to rile you up more. Because the sri remark caused you to attack your keyboard.
Everything you said is entirely based off an opinions and thinking you know our culture. You dont know our culture and you have a bias to see it through a certain lense.
is ad hominem all u got? really? besides obviously the fact that you are saying that the usa wasnt a violent country over the course of its entire history and miss constructing my argument as to be not me saying that mass shootings are just another reitireation of america's long bloody past
My argument is that you arent from here and the only exposure you get is from sensationalists media sources. Weve had guns here for 400 years and this is a recent problem and you militaristic argument is 70 years old. Its in the last 25 this is a problem.
I should apologize though. I think you realized that whatever hook nosed doctor prescribed you your antidepressants is hoping you start your rad fem commie revolution here soon.
So I haven't bothered reading everything in this thread but I'll give a quick opinion.
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Gun laws are done by state not by the US Central government. There are a few federal regulations but by and large each state needs to put in place their own laws and regulation. IE: The president has nothing to do with this matter other than possibly campaigning for it to be done.
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While I do agree, some change needs to be made, what exactly do you suggest? It isn't some easy cut and dry solution that will work. One side wants nothing done, the other side wants everything done. Neither side really wants to compromise and there really hasn't been an amazing compromise made.
You can't start doing mental evaluations because what kind of money and time would that take? Who is footing the bill here? Is is the governments job to do so or are we going to charge people thousands of extra dollars to pay these psychiatrists?
Who runs oversight on this? Is there an appeal process? Who pays for this process? You have humans deciding the outcome here so corruption will 100% happen.
Not to mention this is a huge invasion of privacy so will never go through either way.
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This is America. I know we all make "Murica jokes, so on so forth. Rest assured though, there is a zero % chance the people of this country will relinquish their firearms willingly. It will NEVER happen. This country, especially among the white population, have a HUGE affinity with two things, love of country and love of guns. Neither of which will they let go by the wayside.
Again, I'm for more gun control of some sort. I've sat and thought about it from time to time and really haven't come up with anything concrete to be done myself.
Throw some ideas that might work out there and we can debate them.
