So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.
Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.
Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.
Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.
he wasnt a social security beneficiary you chucklefck
two minutes of googling could have given u that.
i will blame the FBI because EVERYONE TOLD THEM HE WAS SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS AND WARNED THEM TO DO ANYTHING, LITERALLY ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
you are so pathetic to be defending this line of thinking. jesus christ i'm done, i feel for you. i really do. if you are moving to canada, i wish you well. stay the fk out of my country for good, please.
“repeal of an Obama-era rule restricting gun ownership for Social Security beneficiaries who have a psychiatric disability and use a “representative payee” to help manage their finances”
it's worse than that you sarcastic f*ckboi, the foster dad he moved in with was ex-military weapons analyst and told him to "invest" the 800k inheritance of his dead mother into that guy's weapons training and firearms. he not only tried to take the kids money but encouraged him to become obsessed with guns.
lets not even touch on the fact that david hogg's dad is ex-FBI and just so happens to be a Live Fire weapons training expert.
BUT HEY DEVANTE THINKS NOTHING IS WRONG HERE, BEST MOVE TO CANADA BECAUSE THEY AT LEAST BAN GUNS HERP DE FKN DERP
ASK YOURSELF: the next time you go out, ARE YOU GOING TO TRUST THE POLICE TO PROTECT YOU? ARE YOU GOING TO TRUST THE FBI TO STOP A TERRORIST?
you're absolutely braindead if you think you can.
and you know what the sad part of that is? it means i myself, the most anti-gun person for the vast majority of my life, am going to buy a gun to protect myself.
BECAUSE THIS HAS SHOWN US, WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, THAT IT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT, JUSTICE, PROTECTION FOR THEE (read: paid off), BUT NOT FOR ME.
and i happen to be strongly for gun law changes and common sense background check improvements, limitations on purchasing weapons of war, etc.
but you cannot f_cking tell me with a straight face, that this isnt completely bullsh!t.
look, you can be against guns all you want: this sh!t is even bigger than that.
THE FBI CANNOT BE TRUSTED. THEY SCREWED US ON PULSE, BOSTON, AURORA, SAN BERNADINO, AND NOW ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL. THEY LET HIM BECOME A MONSTER. THEY DIDNT EVEN SEND THE TIPS DOWN TO THE FLORIDA OFFICE. SO WHATEVER FAKE @SS NEWS YOU ARE READING ABOUT FBI INTERROGATING, NOT TRUE. THE LEOS LOCALLY DID, AND THEY AGAIN LET HIM BECOME A MONSTER.
EVERY FKN STEP - THEY FAILED US.
THE POLICE CANNOT BE TRUSTED. HOW THIS ISNT A CLEAR SIGN OF THAT, AFTER THE COUNTLESS SHOTS TO THE BACK OF UNARMED BLACK MEN AND WOMEN, IS BEYOND ME.
YOU CAN BE ANTI-GUN AND ANTI-THIS TOO.
THIS IS ABOUT AS CLEAR AS IT GETS THAT YOU CANNOT TRUST THEM. THE FBI KNEW, THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT KNEW:
someone sure has been feeding you bullsh!t, eh devante.
- the kid's residence was visited 39 TIMES by local LEOs. 39 FKN TIMES. they knew what he was going through mentally and the struggle and his own family history.
- the LEOs in Broward were also contacted 45 times PRIOR to the shooting, being warned about a potential threat. among these calls include: students warning about him yielding a gun off-campus and threatening his classmates, teachers and faculty concerned for his mental health ('losing his mind with depression'), a specific incident in which he ingested gasoline and tried to shoot himself... THEY DID NOTHING.
- there was an on-site school deputy that did not engage and sat at his car. 3 other deputies arrived and proceeded to STAND DOWN because the sheriff's office (read: Israel) told them they needed "body cameras" to go in. WHAT!? and radio comms were disrupted during the event. WHAT?? IT TOOK ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO ARRIVE TO EVEN APPROACH THE BUILDING. THEY LET IT FKN HAPPEN.
- the FBI received 3, 3 FULLY CREDIBLE TIPS that this kid was going to commit a school shooting. at the very least they could have kept an eye on him. READ, CHILD: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/FBI-transcript-02-23-2018.pdf (and that is just ONE of the extremely credible tips given - THERE WERE TWO MORE)
how about you look into the facts before you speak out your god d@mn @ss man. you just pissed me the fk off
1. The sheriff wasn’t on scene , 1 of his deputies was and he didn’t go in & as the sheriff said - he is only in charge of training the deputy, what the deputy does in the scenarios they are trained for is out of his control (fact)
2. I mean, with every recent school shooter - the FBI has interviewed them, but since republicans love their 2nd amendment so much that is about all the FBI could do.
what did you all want the FBI to do after the interview ? Take his gun away?
Ultimately he was not a felon, legally he had every right to own a gun. So I’m not sure what the FBI is at fault for..?
What standard do you guys want to set, when is the FBI allowed to take away someone’s gun who has not yet shot up a school? Let’s start there
If the US is going to make a serious effort at restricting civilian access to guns it would have to IMO go about it in small steps - making background checks more rigourous, having some kind of licence to own certain weapons that would need to be renewed, outright bans for only certain classes of weapons and so on and so on... Though as we've seen in the past even small changes to gun laws are going to come up with some concerted resistance, not least from the NRA [and by the way, the United States' system of how political donations are allowed is another completely fuсked up matter on its own].
So yeah America clearly badly needs gun control reform, but its culture, traditions, size and practical ability to enforce any reform is what is making any progress on that front difficult.
Excuse the Žižekposting but wanted to offer my thoughts:
Clamping down on civilian access to guns, whilst obviously still a an idea with noble intentions, is I think a completely different proposition in the USA than in any other country.
Mainly because the idea of common citizens being able to easily obtain and own a firearm is a core part of the American cultural mythology. Negating that in some way is going to be seen by many as an attack to the very idea of being an American or American culture. It's also I suppose part of Americas peculiar relationship with the Constitution which seems to be treated more and more as some kind of immutable article of dogma rather than a true legal basis upon which the countries laws are based [i.e. it's quoted and referenced often by politicians, but only when it suits their aims]. 'Gun control can never be brought about because muh Second Amendment' which conveniently forgets the fact the Constitution has been amended as recently as 1992, and that the Second Amendment itself was written in an era where civilian militias could still in theory provide a real threat to the Federal Government, something which has not really been true since at least the 1950s, and possibly even earlier.
I think it's also worth mentioning that the United States other attempt at clamping down on a black market has so far been failing miserably. If we're to look at the War on Drugs the most salient statistic I can think of is that the amount of illegal substances actually seized by law enforcement is something in the region of 1/100 of the amount that still gets traded. Who's to say that law enforcement's efforts at clamping down on an illegal gun market would be any different, assuming a blanket ban were to come into place tomorrow?
