Epicmafia

The shootings

almost 7 years

So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.

Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.

Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.

Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.

Should gun control be changed?

Yes

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reminder america joined ww2 for selfish reasons and not to defeat nazis and often denied jews fleeing europe from coming to america while supplying many nazis with nasa jobs

RainyDays

almost 7 years

America was NOT founded on compromise.
If we compromised we would still be under british rule paying british taxes.

If we compromised slavery would still be in place.
If we compromised the Nazis would rule the world.

AMERICA IS THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.

WE DO NOT STAND DOWN, NEVER BACK DOWN AND WE NEVER RETREAT.

HORAH SOLDIER

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

when your country tell you to worship a millitary that murders people constantly, and there is nothing better than a solider, and that everyone is a militian in waiting, you become a solider in some scale, the logical extention to that is shooting at kids with an automatic weapon like the troops do in the middle east

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

medium version of what i said

somethingwhatever says

i wonder what superstructure is dehumanizing people and their relations to others, and making people increansilly more mentally ill,, real tough nut to crack!!!
i wonder why american society is imersed in a millitaristic culture of gun worshiping and a cult of mass violence,, almost like the all the imperial wars and mass death you export and the support you give it see: all your support to the "troops" "the flag" "the millitary" SOMEHOW affects your culture and society????
i wonder if at the very foundation of the united states, there was some sort of mass death and dehumanization that is still today central to the american identity???

somethingwhatever says

i wonder if there is some sort of example to show how the united states is specially desensitized to mass spectacles of death, like maybe an atomic bomb or two

short awnser is imperialism

Devante

almost 7 years

somethingwhatever says

saying we need to change the gun culture without addressing why is there such a culture and where is it rooted is meaningless idealism

Enlighten us, why is there such a culture ?

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

saying we need to change the gun culture without addressing why is there such a culture and where is it rooted is meaningless idealism

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

lol the compromise of a revolutionary war hmm

Mathlete42

almost 7 years

america was founded on compromise so how about we comrpmise now. we agree to make military grade weapons have a stricter punshment but only if black people agree to use them more so they can get incarcerated. deal?

Devante

almost 7 years

Devante says

hikage says

so that schoolchildren don't, like, die

I’m all for taking everyone’s guns away or whatever, and when I first became conscious of this issue I was just like “take away everyone’s guns”

however there are over 300 million guns and more in cirrculation - it would take many many decades to actually erraticate all the guns & even then I fed like you would only really be able to get rid of 50% of the guns .

What im tryna say is school shootings will probably never stop in America in our lifetime. But maybe if acted upon correctly they could be stop for our grandchildren’s children’s generation ... who knows

To further elaborate: u won’t be taking away guns. I believe you can have a buy back program on asssult rifles though.

Basically for this generation and the next school shootings will continue to be a thing.
You make carrying a military grade weapon a stricter punishment than the republicans did for felony weed position in the black community (funny how easy it was to make an incarcerate black people)

Stop the production of all guns & change the gun culture in America . Stop allowing the NRA To corrupt your politicians

There are some quick off the top of my head ideas

Devante

almost 7 years

I have already stated my belief and what I believe should be done, I’ll look for that post and quote it for u

Devante

almost 7 years

@relax
An air Marshall works because there are business men on the flights, having a 36 year old white man with facial hair ina building with teens and preteens is the anthetis of discreet

Unless u are proposing u put undercover armed narcs in the school? Or do you think Peter Dinklage and Gary Coleman are in need of a side hustle ?

RainyDays

almost 7 years

THIS IS THE UK GOVERNMENT TELLS U: LAY DOWN AND DIE
http://www.wyfs.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CT-1-.jpg

http://www.watcherofweasels.org/run-hide-tell-policy-proof-uk-surrendered/

THIS IS THE BRAVE MAN AND WOMENS RESPONSE.

[img]https://imgur.com/gallery/W5ABo[/img]

RainyDays

almost 7 years

So I guess all you guys who oppose arming teachers also oppose arming policemen, and school guards too.

Sounds like the UK !

Remember their safety poster in case of terror attacks!

RUN
HIDE
TELL

AKA GOOD LUCK UR DEAD HAHAHA, THATS WAT U GET FOR GIVING UP ALL UR GUNS TO THE GOVERNMENT.

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

oh wow u got me!! my country was based on the same things!! wow!!! would make me a hypocrite if EVER had defended the founding of my nation!!

Relax

almost 7 years

somethingwhatever says

Relax says

The right to bear arms is not remotely a bad thing. It is part of how this country was founded and there is absolutely zero reason it should ever be abolished. To think differently is ignorant.

that would be an smart thing to say if your country was based on good things and not genocide and slavery

https://library.brown.edu/create/fivecenturiesofchange/chapters/chapter-2/african-slavery/

What did you say exactly?

Relax

almost 7 years

Devante says

Relax says

The right to bear arms is not remotely a bad thing. It is part of how this country was founded and there is absolutely zero reason it should ever be abolished. To think differently is ignorant.

I do agree that I'm not sold on arming teachers. I think it might then become a separate issue of maybe trigger happy teachers or teachers potentially being overpowered by someone and their gun stolen and used for some kind of revenge at school.

I think something akin to what airplanes do now (gunned air marshals) would be the best course as far as schools go but it would require at least 3-4 per school, more for the bigger schools and I don't know where the extra funding for this would come from.

Yes, let’s place more armed trigger happy soldiers in schools, because the pilot project they started and all those videos showing those same guys body slamming delinquents is a great idea ! Let’s have 4 of them in every high school!

Perhaps you didn't fully comprehend my post. I said a program akin to how the air marshals with the flights. They are not known nor do they ever announce themselves. They are not "security" in the security guard sense but are on flights for the case of an extreme emergency, not to police small fights of conflicts.

I purposefully didn't say add armed security guards (people with less training than cops in a place of teenage angst and hormones isn't the best idea) or even cops. Maybe an assistant PE teacher that's actually a US marshal (insert other potentially trained program here) or something of the like.

I'm talking 3-4 people that are armed but conceal carry not open carry. That are not openly wearing a badge and are not there to break up fights or stop something small from happening.

Devante I've debated multiple points you've made and you've yet to come back to me yet.

What do you propose?

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

Relax says

The right to bear arms is not remotely a bad thing. It is part of how this country was founded and there is absolutely zero reason it should ever be abolished. To think differently is ignorant.

that would be an smart thing to say if your country was based on good things and not genocide and slavery

Devante

almost 7 years

Relax says

The right to bear arms is not remotely a bad thing. It is part of how this country was founded and there is absolutely zero reason it should ever be abolished. To think differently is ignorant.

I do agree that I'm not sold on arming teachers. I think it might then become a separate issue of maybe trigger happy teachers or teachers potentially being overpowered by someone and their gun stolen and used for some kind of revenge at school.

I think something akin to what airplanes do now (gunned air marshals) would be the best course as far as schools go but it would require at least 3-4 per school, more for the bigger schools and I don't know where the extra funding for this would come from.

Yes, let’s place more armed trigger happy soldiers in schools, because the pilot project they started and all those videos showing those same guys body slamming delinquents is a great idea ! Let’s have 4 of them in every high school!

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Relax says

To think differently is ignorant.

lol

Relax

almost 7 years

The right to bear arms is not remotely a bad thing. It is part of how this country was founded and there is absolutely zero reason it should ever be abolished. To think differently is ignorant.

I do agree that I'm not sold on arming teachers. I think it might then become a separate issue of maybe trigger happy teachers or teachers potentially being overpowered by someone and their gun stolen and used for some kind of revenge at school.

I think something akin to what airplanes do now (gunned air marshals) would be the best course as far as schools go but it would require at least 3-4 per school, more for the bigger schools and I don't know where the extra funding for this would come from.

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stop talking as if real people arent f*cking dying because of gun violence. the right to bare arms is bullsh*t if it means anyone will die because of trigger happy idiots. im 100% sure that if YOUR school was shot you would not be talking about how america's gun control policies are fine and good

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its actually insane that anyone can be dense enough to think that the solution to shootings is to bring in MORE guns... i really cant wrap my head around that argument at all

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Aus is the best <3

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

maybe when y'all leave iraq and afghanistan, you can complain about foreigners giving opinions about ur empire

somethingwhatever

almost 7 years

only americans can interfere and opine on other people's countries am i right fellow imperialists