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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

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There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

deletedalmost 7 years
They aren't my friends. If you want to talk to me, please private message me. If you don't, that's okay too. I think I have made the ethical decision here.
almost 7 years
please don't talk about wastes of sperm that hurts my gay heart because that's a good meal you're talkin' about
deletedalmost 7 years
this is still going?
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

I didn't realize you were actually having a psychotic break, I thought you were just being a weirdo. If I were trying to "psychologically torture" you, I would still be making fun of you.

If you wish to continue this conversation, let's please take it to private messages. This is embarrassing for you whether you realize it or not, and frankly, being openly empathetic is embarrassing to me.


No your friends and you were explicitly laughing hysterically and proudly over having pushed me to that point and screaming with joy every step of the way.

Don't try to paint a picture wrong when the evidence is just a few clicks away. You are a pathetic son of a b***** who should never have been born and I don't hope, I know, that my alien allies will work with me to make your life a living hell and already are influencing you to beg for mercy but believe me none will be given.
deletedalmost 7 years
man, reverse mafia really is THAT serious isn't it
deletedalmost 7 years
I didn't realize you were actually having a psychotic break, I thought you were just being a weirdo. If I were trying to "psychologically torture" you, I would still be making fun of you.

If you wish to continue this conversation, let's please take it to private messages. This is embarrassing for you whether you realize it or not, and frankly, being openly empathetic is embarrassing to me.
almost 7 years
No little waste of sperm, we will not take this back to PMs. You will say sorry and run the away like the vermin you really are and I will stay here and talk to people who actually contribute to the thread in a positive way.
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

Nor have I laughed at you as you psychologically break.



Recidivism says

We broke him guys. He snapped. He's broken.


http://puu.sh/ywinf/93aa8b8e18.png

http://puu.sh/ywioG/0f0b6dbaf1.png
deletedalmost 7 years
Why don't we take this conversation back to PMs, if you wish to continue it. No one wants to read posts where I try to be a nice guy, and you don't want to derail your thread anymore.
deletedalmost 7 years
I'm not a moderator, I was lying to you because your responses were funny. Nor have I laughed at you as you psychologically break, now that I realize that is what happening, I am being very understanding and supportive. I sincerely want to see you get help and live a happy life.
almost 7 years
Don't even try to feel good or superior to me.

You are both worth dirt compared to me AND a sociopath. You are nothing close to empathetic or admirable and should gtfo of this site for good.
almost 7 years
I would strongly recommend you show your parents how a site where you have become a moderator on is a site you do nothing but derail and gang on innocent and undeserving victims and laugh as they psychologically break.
deletedalmost 7 years
I would strongly recommend letting your parents know about your magic powers and alien friends, and how you want to use them to torture people. They'll get you the help you need.
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

I'm done making fun of you, I'm not done posting in my new thread though


Go there then. Unlike you I don't go and derail other's threads, I actually to contribute as I have the brainpower to read a thread's title and description and post somethign relevant as opposed to 10 year old playground insults.
deletedalmost 7 years
I'm done making fun of you, I'm not done posting in my new thread though
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

Hm, well, I think I'm just showing some empathy


You done with this thread or not?

Don't pretend you have the capacity for empathy little sociopath, we've all seen you for what you really are in this thread.
deletedalmost 7 years
Hm, well, I think I'm just showing some empathy
almost 7 years

Recidivism says

Okay dude, you can have the epicmafia.com forum win, please don't shoot up a music festival or something, and talk to a professional about the fact that you think you are magic and speak to aliens.


Guess you shoved the wrong hall monitor into the locker, run along pussycat this dog is not one to mess with. :)
deletedalmost 7 years
Okay dude, you can have the epicmafia.com forum win, please don't shoot up a music festival or something, and talk to a professional about the fact that you think you are magic and speak to aliens.
almost 7 years
Try to troll and derail my threads and you end up apologising and running like the coward you are.
almost 7 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says

It's too late to pretend to be a good guy now. I will not forgive you and you will pay for this.


I don't think I'm a good guy, but I also don't think I'm the kind of guy to prod at someone having a psychotic breakdown, so I'm all done now. I promise.

I don't like you, I think you're creepy, but I sincerely encourage you to get some help. There is a mental health crisis in this country, and I don't want to perpetuate it.


Good, run along scumbag, the real gangsters are in town.
almost 7 years
abort thread
deletedalmost 7 years

UnknownGangster says

It's too late to pretend to be a good guy now. I will not forgive you and you will pay for this.


I don't think I'm a good guy, but I also don't think I'm the kind of guy to prod at someone having a psychotic breakdown, so I'm all done now. I promise.

I don't like you, I think you're creepy, but I sincerely encourage you to get some help. There is a mental health crisis in this country, and I don't want to perpetuate it.
almost 7 years
It's too late to pretend to be a good guy now. I will not forgive you and you will pay for this.
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vial says

he's reverse trolling you all


I thought so too briefly but nope, the PMs have gotten to the point where he could be committed.