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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

deletedover 6 years

There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

UnknownGangster
over 6 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


Do you think the FBI is more concerned about a derailed epicmafia thread or the lunatic who says he is going to eternally torture users with his magic powers and alien friends?


What I have done is say something that is not even considered possible to the FBI.

What you have done is concrete.
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says


lacey says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


i don't think there's a single situation on the planet in which the fbi would think death and torture threats are warranted. maybe the rules are different for the highly esteemed hall monitors.


I never said I myself would do the torture or killing.


google charles manson, my guy
UnknownGangster
over 6 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


i don't think there's a single situation on the planet in which the fbi would think death and torture threats are warranted. maybe the rules are different for the highly esteemed hall monitors.


I never said I myself would do the torture or killing.
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


Do you think the FBI is more concerned about a derailed epicmafia thread or the lunatic who says he is going to eternally torture users with his magic powers and alien friends?
Jeff
over 6 years
He hates me because I am gay. He can't quote a single post of me harassing him before his death threats.
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.


i don't think there's a single situation on the planet in which the fbi would think death and torture threats are warranted. maybe the rules are different for the highly esteemed hall monitors.
deletedover 6 years

Jeff says


Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


can you edit out the parts about me suckin dic'k, my grandma would be disappointed.


Sorry, no. Gran Gran deserves the truth.
deletedover 6 years
edit out the stuff about my daddy issues too, if my dad ever comes back i don't want him to know how f/ucked up i am
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says


Zayn says

All UnknownGangster has done is wish death on people about 9 times in this thread, you really are going to act like that's enough to warrant you all relentlessly calling him a hall monitor for 20 pages? GROW UP.


Every single post they made was unwarranted and completely derailed from the thread's real topic and purpose. they have done nothing but ruin a very enthusiastically posted thread and to psychologically torture the poster with no provocation.


I agree with you, wholeheartedly.
UnknownGangster
over 6 years

Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


Go right ahead. Please seriously do. When they read it they will see how you derailed and bullied me without any provocation and how I deserved none of what you have done here.
Jeff
over 6 years

Recidivism says

Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so


can you edit out the parts about me suckin dic'k, my grandma would be disappointed.
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says

Not after all he has done to me and joined in ganging up and bullying me for this entire thread no.


bruh jeff called you a hall monitor and talked about sucking d/icks and you lost your sh/it. i literally said you're a school shooting candidate and you told me you hope i learn to love myself.
UnknownGangster
over 6 years

Zayn says

All UnknownGangster has done is wish death on people about 9 times in this thread, you really are going to act like that's enough to warrant you all relentlessly calling him a hall monitor for 20 pages? GROW UP.


Every single post they made was unwarranted and completely derailed from the thread's real topic and purpose. they have done nothing but ruin a very enthusiastically posted thread and to psychologically torture the poster with no provocation.
deletedover 6 years
I heard the FBI could really use some magical detectives with alien connections, maybe they'll offer you a job
deletedover 6 years
Alright well I'm going to go ahead and send this to the FBI, I guess you can expect to be locked up in a week or so
UnknownGangster
over 6 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

"i hope you choke on a d/ick covered in acid so you both die painful deaths, but not because you're gay!!"


I didnt say the first few words he said them.



UnknownGangster says


Jeff says

i hope i die chokin on a d'ick


So do I and I hope it's covered in acid so both you and the one stupid enough to love you can scream in pain together.





thank you for proving what I said correct.


so you think that's not insane and disgusting to say to a person just because you didn't say the word d/ick and just palyed off of him saying it?


Not after all he has done to me and joined in ganging up and bullying me for this entire thread no.
deletedover 6 years
All UnknownGangster has done is wish death on people about 9 times in this thread, you really are going to act like that's enough to warrant you all relentlessly calling him a hall monitor for 20 pages? GROW UP.
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says


lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

"i hope you choke on a d/ick covered in acid so you both die painful deaths, but not because you're gay!!"


I didnt say the first few words he said them.



UnknownGangster says


Jeff says

i hope i die chokin on a d'ick


So do I and I hope it's covered in acid so both you and the one stupid enough to love you can scream in pain together.





thank you for proving what I said correct.


so you think that's not insane and disgusting to say to a person just because you didn't say the word d/ick and just palyed off of him saying it?
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says

Anyway I am over the age of 18, I don't in any way have ownership by my parents.

Are you still a child, do yoru parents still own you?


Your parents can commit you if you are 65 with posts like these. Literally anyone can have you committed right now, you're a whackadoodle who is spewing threats of magical torture and alien ghosts
deletedover 6 years
lmfao epicmafia is just a game
UnknownGangster
over 6 years

lacey says


UnknownGangster says


lacey says

"i hope you choke on a d/ick covered in acid so you both die painful deaths, but not because you're gay!!"


I didnt say the first few words he said them.



UnknownGangster says


Jeff says

i hope i die chokin on a d'ick


So do I and I hope it's covered in acid so both you and the one stupid enough to love you can scream in pain together.





thank you for proving what I said correct.
UnknownGangster
over 6 years
Anyway I am over the age of 18, I don't in any way have ownership by my parents.

Are you still a child, do yoru parents still own you?
deletedover 6 years

Zayn says

Jeff, Recidivism, and Lacey:

You should be DISGUSTED by your actions. The fact that someone can just be making a thread about game theory on a fu'cking gaming website and get attacked like this is revolting. You truly are the vile scumbags he accuses you of being. Sick fuc.kers.


marry me
deletedover 6 years

UnknownGangster says


lacey says

"i hope you choke on a d/ick covered in acid so you both die painful deaths, but not because you're gay!!"


I didnt say the first few words he said them.



UnknownGangster says


Jeff says

i hope i die chokin on a d'ick


So do I and I hope it's covered in acid so both you and the one stupid enough to love you can scream in pain together.

UnknownGangster
over 6 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

This guy should seriously be committed but snitching is against my code of ethics so I hope someone else takes the initiative here


Go ahead and try to commit me. I will be set free in no time and you will see my wrath as I am released.


I have a feeling you'll get yourself committed, I just hope it's not too late by then!


Trust me, I won't. You will come to see just how wrong you are about everything in due time but mercy as you beg for it will not come.


If anyone showed this thread to your parents, you'd never see the outside of a sponge room


I would, trust me on this.