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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

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There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

over 6 years

Recidivism says


Jeff says

alright time to make this thread gay


F*ck the WASPs were right, it's a slippery slope, if The Gays can take over my epicmafia thread where does it end?!??!


It ends with a permaban, enjoy it.
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Jeff says

alright time to make this thread gay


F*ck the WASPs were right, it's a slippery slope, if The Gays can take over my epicmafia thread where does it end?!??!
over 6 years

Recidivism says


UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Being a good person is hard.


Is it too hard for you little baby? Poor thing, let's whip you into shape and see if the pain is harder than being a good person then.

Enjoy your ban troll, the fact you have that star makes it all the more vile how you carried yourself in this thread.


It's a star of David. I got it as a symbol of my Jewish heritage.


The star of david doesn't have 5 points.
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ban me daddy
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over 6 years

lacey says

i never even said you were wrong, i just said they weren't facts and that you sound like an actual school shooter


A school shooter fires bullets not at the ones who bullied him but at the ones who did nothing to him at all. In this way and others, I differ from a school shooter in mentality.
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UnknownGangster says


Recidivism says

Being a good person is hard.


Is it too hard for you little baby? Poor thing, let's whip you into shape and see if the pain is harder than being a good person then.

Enjoy your ban troll, the fact you have that star makes it all the more vile how you carried yourself in this thread.


It's a star of David. I got it as a symbol of my Jewish heritage.
over 6 years
Keep derailing it some more, you'll get banned too.

Only reason I haven't banned you is I know who is pushing you to abuse me and he is the one who deserves punishment more than you.
deletedover 6 years
i never even said you were wrong, i just said they weren't facts and that you sound like an actual school shooter
deletedover 6 years
I think you blocked my PMs so I'm going to have to say this here.

You know you are having a psychotic break. You are upset with us for ostensibly perpetuating this psychotic break.

Please just go see a psychiatrist, for your own sake. You can tell them all about the eternity of torture I'm in for
over 6 years
WHAT THE FU'CK THAT IS NOT THE PICTURE I PUT INTO IMGUR LMFAO
over 6 years
over 6 years
alright time to make this thread gay
over 6 years

lacey says

i hardly think your unhinged threats and elementary school insults were facts


You not realising I am in the right here and stating the truth are why you are on the wrong side in the first place.
over 6 years

Recidivism says

Being a good person is hard.


Is it too hard for you little baby? Poor thing, let's whip you into shape and see if the pain is harder than being a good person then.

Enjoy your ban troll, the fact you have that star makes it all the more vile how you carried yourself in this thread.
deletedover 6 years
i hardly think your unhinged threats and elementary school insults were facts
over 6 years

lacey says

i'm not sure if you're trying to insult me with that or not, but you're not wrong


I'm stating facts just like I've been doing all of this thread.
deletedover 6 years
Being a good person is hard.
deletedover 6 years
i'm not sure if you're trying to insult me with that or not, but you're not wrong
over 6 years

lacey says

i hardly think he "pushed you to this point" but the fact that you made it here over a thread of em is probably something you should discuss with your therapist


the fact you laughed along to the abuse and still are defending it means you are beyond therapy.
deletedover 6 years
i hardly think he "pushed you to this point" but the fact that you made it here over a thread of em is probably something you should discuss with your therapist
over 6 years

Recidivism says

I am trying really, really hard not to make fun of you here dude. Work with me a little


The only work I will be doing with you is working to get you banned permanently.
over 6 years
hey guys i'm popular and brag about it online
deletedover 6 years
I am trying really, really hard not to make fun of you here dude. Work with me a little
over 6 years

Recidivism says

They aren't my friends. If you want to talk to me, please private message me. If you don't, that's okay too. I think I have made the ethical decision here.


That's right jackass, you have no friends and unlike me the hall monitor who was bullied I am now the popular one IRL and you are a loner both IRL and online and have no leg left to stand on.

You are trapped between trying to be a good guy and trying to keep taunting me and don't quite know how to keep posting here so you're begging me to let you take it to PMs but trust me I won't let you win this.

You trolled the wrong troll and are getting broken piece by piece as you try to use your chess strategy to 'checkmate me' into ending up the loser here.

You stepped into my territory (this thread) tried to p**s on the statues in my city and now are begging me to forgive you when revenge comes knocking at your door.