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Role Mechanics - Mafia

over 6 years

Village mechanics: https://epicmafia.com/topic/86418

Third Party mechanics: https://epicmafia.com/topic/86447

This only contains mafia roles obv

Yakuza

  • Can veg yak (vote in yak meeting but not maf meeting)
  • Will not die from yakking if virgin night or angel save
  • If Maid Maids a Yak who is Yakking, Yak goes through, and both Maid and Yak die

Hooker

  • prioritizes over drunk?
  • Can't roleblock non-visiting roles? (i.e. watchers, ninjas, etc.)

Disguiser

  • Can guise celeb unnoticed if celeb is also janned
  • Anarchist/Tricksterer bomb will reveal the guiser's real name not the name they are guising as
  • Reports will show guiser's real name (but the guised name in the meeting)
  • Pathologist will see the real dead player's name in the gy
  • Can't guise people they didn't kill
  • If bride brides disguised person, the proposal will go to the person in the graveyard, however the person in the graveyard can't accept it, leading the guiser to veg
  • Butterfly death kills guiser

Actress

  • If actress is revealed via orc/crystal or dies, the last role they acted as will be the one shown
  • Is shown as actress in chef meetings

Tailor

  • Can't suit people who are jailed
  • Suits overlap
  • If someone suited is revealed (via orc/crystal), their suit will be shown not their actual role

Janitor

  • Can jan people they didn't kill

Don

  • Don's overturn will override governor's overturn

Prosecutor

  • Votes counts twice in maf meetings as well

Interrogator

  • If gets jailed but gators jailer, will appear in jailer's cell alone and vice versa
  • Visits "undefined"

Slasher

  • Doesn't get a knife if there is no night meetings
  • If there's a gambler alive, will get a knife regardless if visited or not
  • If receiving a cutler knife, has a chance of revealing like a normal knife

Forger

  • Can forge wills of people they are not killing and the forged will will still show up if they die later

Poisoner

  • Vests will delay the poison but target will eventually die unless doc etc.
  • Poisoning the same person every night will prevent them from dying from the poison
  • Can't kill granny

Driver

  • If they drive mason to the mafia, mafia can be masoned (but mismason will still occur)

Toreador

  • Toreador on the amn will make amn be Toreador

Gramps

  • Gramps self visits
  • If killing self due to mm, will get a report on himself (as well as know who the mm and maf partners are)

Witch

  • Killing priest with witch powers will not turn the witch

Ventriloquist

  • Cannot vent someone using "/me ...", will show up as the vent using it instead

Diabolist

  • Diab still works during the day even if they die at night
  • This role exists for some reason, lucid pls remove

Apprentice

  • Can also take mastermind if they want to be a scrub

Fabricator

  • Fabbed guns override any guns a player has
  • Fabbed knives still work contrary to the system message

Hitman

  • Can kill through granny, tree, vests, etc. if so cannot kill a tree that has been vested

Arsonist

  • Lighting a match will light all the gas from every arsonist (ty riskitforthebiscuit)
  • Lighting up the bomb will kill the arsonist

Terrorist

  • Can be saved by monk when revealing bomb, kill will still go through but no system message appears, just the sound
Gramps can vote the forbidden vote without anything happening
over 6 years
Lookout: can not see his own visit
over 6 years
Angel can save yak for sure.
over 6 years
Thanks Patryk. So
1. roleblock doesn't stop visiting.
2. bg can save yak, so bg save is not a normal doc save. its a kind of a better one, like virgin, angel or monk save. Not sure if monk and angel can save yak, but they can save people at day time.
3. since there r 2 kinds of saving power, I think there r 2 kinds of killing as well, a must kill and a normal kill. But I also think there are not just 2.
4. I mean in all kinds of visit/action, you either choose a person or a person's name. That's why some role can guiser. I need more time to think more about this ...
over 6 years
When paparazzi is lynched and overturned by a gov, the paparazzi may still reveal a role without being lynched.


LadyNemesis says

The more important question is: why are you not in a game!


I'm still there, you just don't notice me. :<
over 6 years
The more important question is: why are you not in a game!
over 6 years
Yakuza can be saved by BG during yakking. BG will die, but I'm not certain if the BG can survive.

If hooker is the last mafia alive, the kill can be roleblocked by drunk even if the hooker tried to hook the drunk.

Amnesiac can see guiser's identity during the night. You can jan and disguise the same person, but if the disguiser dies, the janned's role will be revealed. If disguiser guises for the first time into a role that's not revealed, guiser will see guiser's role next to the dead person (i.e. with his real name). For the next guises the disguiser will see the dead's real role in gy even if it's not revealed to the town.

Actress will appear as lastly acted role to detective and stalker reports.

Suited person will show their suit to detective and stalker reports, but if a person is suited and checked by detective/stalker in the same night, the detective/stalker will see the person's role before suiting (unlike actress).

Janitor will see the janned role after conversion and ignores suits.

Toreador may receive a carol when chosen during the meeting.

When witch affects her target, the target will visit themself.

Hitman's kills aren't strengthened anymore.
over 6 years
Hooker can hook sleepwalker as well as any other visiting roles. Tracker can see roleblocked people's visits, but watcher can't find them. Roleblocked people cannot be killed by granny, but they can interrupt dreamer and santa.
over 6 years

Orienteering says

fabbed snowballs still work

driving a vigilante onto granny will kill the vigilante and the driver

doc saves can cure poison

actress appears as actressed role for detective report, but still as mafia for cop report



question, what happens if jail and interrogator visit same target?

what happens if yak yaks into butterfly when the butterfly getting yakked is killed by a killer?

can godfather be framed?

can two lawyers law each other?

can medusa crush if they visited cthulhu?

what happens if interceptor kills ghoul, intercepts X, but ghoul is on X as well?

can strongman kill bleeder/bulletproof/doc save/vested?


Granny is not supposed to kill the driver.

GF cannot be targeted by framer unless driven.

Lawyers can law each other.

Medusa should crush even if visited by cthulhu but I haven't tested it.

Ghoul kills X, not certain what happens to the ghoul.

Strongman kills BP/doc save/vested. Not certain about bleeder.
over 6 years
fabbed snowballs still work

driving a vigilante onto granny will kill the vigilante and the driver

doc saves can cure poison

actress appears as actressed role for detective report, but still as mafia for cop report



question, what happens if jail and interrogator visit same target?

what happens if yak yaks into butterfly when the butterfly getting yakked is killed by a killer?

can godfather be framed?

can two lawyers law each other?

can medusa crush if they visited cthulhu?

what happens if interceptor kills ghoul, intercepts X, but ghoul is on X as well?

can strongman kill bleeder/bulletproof/doc save/vested?
over 6 years
Hooker can't hook watcher, sleepwalker, oracle, or anything like that (including bomb explosion as well)
over 6 years

Shwartz99 says

I found this out a couple of months ago but the game history expired on the game:

Bleeder who gets poisoned every day (by poisoner) doesn't die.

https://epicmafia.com/game/4175110


that is not exclusive to bleeder anyone that gets poisoned every night wont die
over 6 years
I found this out a couple of months ago but the game history expired on the game:

Bleeder who gets poisoned every day (by poisoner) doesn't die.

https://epicmafia.com/game/4175110
If slasher gets a cutler knife, it may reveal
deletedover 6 years

Nakhhash says

If bride brides disguised person, the proposal will go to the person in the graveyard, however the person in the graveyard can't accept it, leading the guiser to veg (not sure if this qualifies as bride or guiser but i'll just leave this here)


luis look at your other threads you nerd
over 6 years

Shwartz99 says


DrSharky says

You can't use /me when disguising as ventriloquist.
It will just display as if you used /me normally instead.


You also can't use /me when you're at a party and you have another meeting. The /me instead goes to the other meeting you have.


This no longer applies :/
over 6 years

DrSharky says

You can't use /me when disguising as ventriloquist.
It will just display as if you used /me normally instead.


You also can't use /me when you're at a party and you have another meeting. The /me instead goes to the other meeting you have.
over 6 years

DrSharky says

You can't use /me when disguising as ventriloquist.
It will just display as if you used /me normally instead.


so an alternative to quoting? :thinking:
over 6 years
You can't use /me when disguising as ventriloquist.
It will just display as if you used /me normally instead.
over 6 years

FilthyLawn says

https://epicmafia.com/game/6168073

Example of how gramps pretty much ruins mastermind.


and you even get a report on yourself lool, ty
over 6 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/6168073

Example of how gramps pretty much ruins mastermind.
over 6 years
disguiser and hitman aren't good friends
over 6 years
guiser's meeting breaks if he gets a crystal,
actress can mimic a celeb without revealing that they are celeb and their role wont change the next day if they're married, but can still find out roles.
the host is has a 90% to be fiddled d1,
silencer and vent make a good team,
you can see if your gator jailed if you're in a party and it says dungeon. gators have dungeons,
witch can kill a priest without being turned,
gramps can find out who the mastermind is.
over 6 years

riskitforthebiscuit says

When lucid changed mastermind last year to make it so mastermind doesnt show up in things like posioner meeting he made mastermind act like maf for a lot of stuff that it didnt used to.

IIRC mastermind could be masoned before that


yeah I think he could be masoned before but not anymore...
Monk can save terrorist from suiciding. The kill will still go through.

IIRC it doesn't show the "rushes at X and reveals a bomb message" but it will play the sound