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Role Mechanics

about 7 years

This is meant to be a sort of master thread for all role mechanics and interactions.

If you have things to add or corrections or questions, post them down below

This thread contains only Village-sided roles

Mafia mechanics: https://epicmafia.com/topic/86420

Third Party mechanics: https://epicmafia.com/topic/86447

Note: This is not some strategy guide for each role but simply states role interactions and such that may not be obvious which in turn can be used to strategize things.

Mechanics will be either be placed on the role which performs the action or affected by it. Sometimes both. IDK.

I'm following the order of the role list, too lazy to alphabetize them, just use the search function.

Red Text are things i'm not sure of or want to test/confirm. please post games/screenshots for reference

Surgeon

  • Will stop mimic from converting to stolen role

Insane Cop/Non-sane Cops

  • Will have a suit
  • If role is stolen, the stealer will see which cop they are

Sherriff

  • If mimic'd etc., gun will have a 50% chance of revealing like a normal gun
  • fabbed guns will always take priority over any gun

Deputy

  • If mimic'd etc., gun will have a 50% chance of revealing like a normal gun
  • fabbed guns will always take priority over any gun

Drunk

  • Will roleblock the hooker (takes priority)

Bulletproof

  • Receiving a vest will stack with its vest like normal

Bleeder

  • While bleeding, can take any number of gun shots, bomb explosions, and voodoo (will continually get chills) but won't die until the end of the day
  • Can survive famine even without bread (will bleed instead as usual)

Bomb

  • A vested bomb will still kill the killer but bomb will not die

Granny

  • Will not die from stab wounds (will never bleed to death)
  • Visits the person they kill

Hunter

  • Still activates if gov/don OTs to them

Agent

  • If a role is missing, that role has been converted

Celebrity

  • Will always appear as celebrity despite being converted/stolen unless oracle or crystal reveals them again
  • If celeb is janned and guised, celeb will be guised without any trace except for the usual (reports, patho meeting, etc.)

Loudmouth - Using a key will make loudmouth visit themself

Mason

  • Can kill Cult, Cthulhu, and Killer (though the killer one shouldn't be but w/e)
  • Will mason mafia if driven to mafia with masoning
  • Will mason mafia if monkey'd to mafia without mismasoning
  • masons in the first conversion to happen, then all other roles (cult/borg/etc.), yak is last to convert
  • Masoning a person who is being mimicked on the same night will cause the mason not to go through (mimic will take original role and the masoned person will see themselves as mason they are actually blue)
  • Cures Cthulhu insanity
  • Not affect by Cthulhu

Jailer

  • If gator and jailer jail/gator each other, they will appear in the other's cell alone
  • Takes priority over chef meetings (aka if chef also targets A, A will appear in jail still but should get the chef report anyway)
  • Jailers share a meeting and will be in the jail room together
  • Visits "undefined" if they are alone
  • Cannot jail-kill if snowballed (still has meeting)

Chef

  • Chef will still go through when lynched
  • Meetings goes through suits or acted selves (aka actress will appear as actress)
  • apparently this is prioritized over jail meetings
  • Chefs share a meeting

Turncoat

  • If they are shrinked, will they be immortal to maf kills?

Enchantress

  • Crystalling an oracle is useless, they will only show their orc target not the crystal's

Priest

  • Only kills werewolf if they are eaten by the werewolf, werewolf failing will not be killed
  • Does not detect zombies visiting them
  • Self-vists
  • Will be auto-killed by trapper and interceptor

Trapper

  • Will be revealed like Interceptor does
  • Can auto-kill the priest

Baker

  • Famine also happens when they veg or sui
  • Amn on baker will stop famine

Ghoul

  • Will not redirect jail/gator kills
  • Self-visits but will visit their target if they are redirecting a kill

Penguin

  • Noot not
  • Can give reports of who ninja visited

Justice

  • Puts non-hostile third as town alignment (aka town and vivor are same)
  • Will report miller and villager as same alignment (compared to sane/insane cop which gets them different)

Treestump

  • Can be converted into cyborg (Ty LekkuLover)
  • Can be maided
  • Can die via voodoo (as well as arson and strongman)

Bride

  • Proposal cannot be accepted if the player is already in love (via lover, cupid, heartbreaker etc.) cannot accept if that person is lover or heartbreaker
  • If bride brides disguised person, the proposal will go to the person in the graveyard, however the person in the graveyard can't accept it, leading the guiser to veg

Monkey

  • Umm, probably too many to list
  • See lover Do to X. will cause X to see lover message but won't actually be in love and lover will still have lover meeting until not monkey'd
  • If monkey chooses amn as first target, monkey's role will turn into second target's role. Amn will stay amn, second target's role will stay same. (ty xfire1994)

Virgin

  • its death message "virgin has been sacrificed!" will always appear when they die
  • gov OT counts as being lynched (ty FilthyLawn)

Blacksmith

  • Vests infinitely stack

Oracle

  • If vested and hit, will reveal orc target. Allows for multiple orcing in a game
  • Can update already revealed roles (aka orcing culted celeb will show them as cult)

Dreamer

  • Includes hostile thirds if maf is dead
  • If there's a gambler alive, will receive a dream in the middle of the night regardless if visited. This allows for dreamer to have 2 dreams in 1 day (1 at night 1 at day)

Lightkeeper

  • Does not turn off the lights if vested and hit thank goodness

Keymaker

  • Keys cause a role to self visit. This can make loudmouth message say they visited themselves and can make Cthulhu insane (ty riskitforthebiscuit)
  • You will still be sent to jail if you key yourself in but cannot be killed

Gunsmith

  • Their guns will be overridden by fab guns

Tinkerer

  • If there's a gambler alive, will receive a gun at night even if visited
  • Will not receive a gun if there are no night meetings

Mimic

  • If surgeon'd/shrinked, will steal role of person (they turn blue) but mimic will remain as mimic and can mimic again
  • Can steal roles of non-hostile thirds
  • Stealing cop reveals their sanity
  • If it steal lm/gallis/etc., will still appear as blue to themselves
  • mimicking someone who is masoned on the same night will take their original role but the one who is masoned will appear masoned to himself but is actually blue
  • mimics can mimic lover, rival, prophet, alien, sidekick, survivor, and angel (otherwise they turn amn)

Butterfly

  • Changes lyncher and angel targets

Trickster

  • Holding its own bomb will reveal self like anarchist
  • Gives out fabbed items including bombs which will not detonate and will cause the holder to veg (ty riskitforthebiscuit)
Mythbusters EM Edition
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I am willing to participate and cooperate in any role mechanic testing if needed, just hmu
about 7 years
helpful shizzle you should read

priest doesn't know when a zombie vists them,
mimics can mimic lover, rival, prophet, alien, sidekick, survivor, and angel,
all thirds other than cult and killer can be masoned(which sucks a lot)
about 7 years
Tinkerer NEEDS a night meeting to get a gun. Day start or skipped nights means he won't get a gun. It's implied in his role description but not a lot of people actually realize this.
about 7 years
there can be multiple admirers.
when killer dies, admirer becomes a copycat randomly. this means an admirer can go a whole game without becoming a killer even if killer dies n1. and if you're a really unlucky admirer that just turned, a butterfly can reset you.

TAKE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE:(or you can read it on the learn page)
•killer dies n1
•admirer turns into copycat
•copycat dies n2
•admirer 2 turns into real killer.

this was poorly organized. nobody cares because nobody gives a bloop about admirer.
about 7 years
ok later i'll put which thirds win only when alive and which can win when dead
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so apparently lyncher can't win if he dies before getting his target lynched.
about 7 years
I'm pretty sure angel still saves the target from being lynched
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Trickster can also give out fabbed items including fabbed bombs. Fabbed bombs will not explode and eventually make someone veg
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Keymaker: keys cause a role to self visit. This can make loudmouth message say they visited themself and can make thulhu insane
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sidekick wont have a meeting if the only other 3rd is a maid.
about 7 years

BlackLucio says

if you have 2 or more cult members and sui/veg as CL the rest of the members wont die and you become unstoppable cult


huh, I always thought the cult died if CL vegged/suid
about 7 years

moonlightseal says

You should make a post about the types of visits in EM.

It's not just alone visit and group visit

We have front door visit, things that can be caught by watchers

We have back door visit, things that can't be caught by watchers (members in group meeting, most self visit)

And we have ninja visit.

And we have roles that do things with those visit: Loudmouth, priest, thlu, monkey, driver and toreador. Their mechanics are not fully discovered yet

And I don't think hooker and drunk have the same mechanic btw


Yeah visiting is a little hard for me to keep track of that's why I didn't put any in. If you know who visits themselves of visits "." or w/e let me know.

I also forget what happens but loudmouth sometimes gets "Curses! Woke me up from my slumber". IIRC it's due to a roleblocked visit??
about 7 years
You should make a post about the types of visits in EM.

It's not just alone visit and group visit

We have front door visit, things that can be caught by watchers

We have back door visit, things that can't be caught by watchers (members in group meeting, most self visit)

And we have ninja visit.

And we have roles that do things with those visit: Loudmouth, priest, thlu, monkey, driver and toreador. Their mechanics are not fully discovered yet

And I don't think hooker and drunk have the same mechanic btw
about 7 years
If monkey chooses amn as first target, monkey's role will turn into second target's role. Amn will stay amn, second target's role will stay same.
about 7 years
if you have 2 or more cult members and sui/veg as CL the rest of the members wont die and you become unstoppable cult
about 7 years
this is really interesting, i'll go through some roles and update information as i see fit with the help of this thread
about 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/6161894

Proof that Cult is immune to Cthulu
I'm near certain Masons are also immune.
about 7 years
Gov/Don meetings happen BEFORE the lynch, so the hunter meeting will only activate after the gov/don chooses/vegs.

I can confirm that virgin night still happens if it is cause by an OT.

I don't know if this was fixed or not but monkey can mason mafia without dying.
about 7 years
Open for input k
about 7 years
Oh gosh I can't fit all the mafia, I'm gonna um. Make another thread for the mafia :^ )

Here https://epicmafia.com/topic/86420
about 7 years
A very rough draft, most from memory and also reading the comments on the role pages.

Will post mafia ones later and then open up for posting :^ )