Is abortion or harassment worse than the other one?
Which is worse?
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Harassment
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Murder
deletedover 7 years
you're using sad pseudo-intelligent freshman year philosophy on trying to rationalize your desire and contentment with the murder of an innocent baby--and quite frankly it's embarrassing and evil
deletedover 7 years
No sigh that's the literal point of the argument If you feel procreation is so bad and being "forced into existence" is so bad, the solution is literally to kill yourself You don't want to because you don't want to hurt your parents and those that you are lucky enough to have formed emotional bonds with--something those who were aborted never got the chance to form.
here's a fun fact. god didn't do jack sh*t for you. your parents made you and you & the people around you made it through the hard times. don't thank jesus ghost for human willpower and sexual intercourse
you know you've lost an argument when you have to resort to saying "just kill yourself" lol
my life isn't bad, i'm a;ready alive. being against procreation is a different thing to suicide. anyway i would kms but i don't want to make my parents sad (that's why i'm against natalism, i wouldnt be in this position and feel this trapped if they didn't conceive me in the first place)
deletedover 7 years
that's exactly what i'm suggesting is that really so absurd? what is the point in continuing the human race ??
giving life means giving death and that reason alone should justify letting the human race die out.
you shouldn't be sad that people or baby people are dying, you should be sad when they're born - that's the root, without birth there'd be no death
also abortion and harassment and every other argument and problem can be solved if you just don't play the game
deletedover 7 years
ok this might sound edgy just warning you but their happiness is literally an illusion - their happiness is just the absence of pain and suffering, but happiness can't exist without pain and suffering and they will undoubtedly experience pain and suffering at some point in their lives.
their happiness also doesn't justify life as being correct - you can be a happy pedophile that doesn't mean being a pedophile is objectively a good thing.
and lastly they can be happy themselves but how can they condone and preach life as happiness when billions are suffering
also they'll just die eventually anyway lol - why perpetuate and prolong meaninglessness. to any individual, life will never have meaning. maybe to a collective group of people aka the human race but its end is inevitable too
deletedover 7 years
why are you idiots still arguing
deletedover 7 years
LMFAO Comparing not having the choice to be born versus not having the choice to live or die Here I have a solution to your problem sigh: if you don't want to be alive anymore, just fking kill yourself I'm glad to be alive, and I thank God my mom wasn't a selfish wh*re that aborted me because "lol it's just a clump of cells!!!! xD" You have the choice now, either rejoice and live the life God and your mother granted you, or commit a mortal sin and just off yourself if your life is sooooo bad
yes but the thing is that no baby will ever be able to make that decision, so should we just stop breeding and let the human race die out because we can't ask our young for their permission to create them? absolutely not, that's absurd. if an adult of sound mental state wishes to end their own life on their own terms, that should be their decision to make.
you're generalising your own experiences to the entire human race. there are undoubtedly some happy individuals who feel blessed to know they were never aborted and consider living a gift. just because suffering in life is inevitable does not mean we should also prevent people from experiencing the joys of it.
remember, happiness is in your hands. it's a real and tangible state of being but only you can carve your path.
deletedover 7 years
If I had the choice as a clump of cells I would have definitely chosen to be aborted, but better yet if I had the choice I would've definitely chosen to not be conceived at all
deletedover 7 years
If you're against abortion because the "babies" don't get a choice, you should logically be against procreation
I didn't ask to be born, I had absolutely NO CHOICE and yet I am subjected to all the pain and suffering I have and will endure, and also the inevitability of death
deletedover 7 years
"clump of cells"
deletedover 7 years
the right to live is relative, but not the right to choose. in fact, you have no say in the matter at all, and must irrevocably change the course of your life because i have arbitrarily assigned this clump of cells the right to live for no other reason than i feel like it's the right thing to do.
Ethic Debate
