Without abortion, we wouldn't have this lovable character! Not all abortions end badly!
deletedover 7 years
of course it's relative. no one's saying it isn't. the dalai lama has more worth than a serial killer. the problem is that defining how to blur that line isn't something anyone is qualified to do. definitely not the guy who advocates killing healthy birthed babies. i think it's better to play it safe and believe that people or the spurred potential of a person generally deserve to live, and that their right to life outweighs a competent adult's regret for a bad decision
deletedover 7 years
yeah dude i would lie down and let my father have his way with me :D
condom breaks? 0.05% chance of the pill failing? r*pe?
yeah pre natal screening is obviously preferred but this is strictly for those cases where it slips by, for whatever reason.
that question was to those who think every human being a right to live but would be okay with aborting r*pe and incest babies, as for some reason the nature of the intercourse negates their right. the right to live can't possibly be absolute it's based on factors such as ethics of the conception.
deletedover 7 years
this is a good point and made me challenge my thinking.
you'd have to weigh up the time it would take for someone to reach that level of awareness. lets say at 5 years old the person doesn't want to live anymore. that's 5 years of stress, medical bills, pain, reduction of resources all gone to waste. there's also the chance that their instinctual desire to live overrides what's best for them, as even someone in great pain might hesitate to request death. the decision to kill a child, over a newborn or fetus, comes with its own trauma. i can't imagine it would ever be easy to allow your child to die after years of care just because they've now decided life isn't for them.
finally this argument is only for conditions which cause intense pain, where the chances of having a happy life are extremely slim. i can never contend that disabilities like down syndrome justify death but peter singer and co. certainly seem to think so.
natzi medical experiments are pretty widely known and i think you can understand the concept of groundbreaking research beyond our grasp on ethical grounds, like the in-depth study of hypothermia, infectious disease, and trauma to name a few which could clearly help with stopping infections and understanding trauma
deletedover 7 years
you find it morally reprehensible to kill a newborn with a terrible genetic disease, i think the opposite.
no. they're living beings and it's not morally right to kill something for no reason. cats are different to babies because the cat has zero infringement of your body or. your life.
it's also a good reason not to support murdering babies: it's not murder if you give them a choice
i think a more interesting debate to have would be whether we consider a preteen capable of making such a decision, because as absurd as that sounds on the face of it they have more stable feelings about these things than a teenager wracked by puberty and most healthy children with a decent life would definitely not indicate strongly a desire to die as would some you're assigning to the chopping block
deletedover 7 years
i have no idea about what beneficial information was extracted from experimentation so i'll take your word for it, but the severity and inhumane nature of the procedures involved would never be able to justify the progress. a world in which such experimentation is seen as necessary is not a world i wish to live in.
deletedover 7 years
yes but the baby doesn't truly rationally know whether it wants to survive or not - that is the difference between me protesting my death and a baby, for it is only operating on instinct. instinct can explain why we perform certain actions, but not what SHOULD be done. .
also if i was suffering profoundly and physically unable to shoot myself in the head i would request someone else do it in a heartbeat.
why would she tell you then and why wouldnt you tell her boyfriend and why wouldnt she have just taken the pill this whole time its a lot easier to conceal
i can definitely tickle you especially with that false sense of security itll take you by surprise
also thats actually a bad trait, "ticklishness" is a sign of danger (spiders and potentially dangerous insects mostly), without it you're more susceptible to getting bit
hows that for evolution nerd
deletedover 7 years
lol bulla thinks the father of the child gets any say whether or not a woman will have an abortion
this fking nasty disgusting piece of sht woman i work with has gotten 5 voluntary abortions and not once has told her boyfriend about it because she "hates kids" and he wants nothing more than to be a father
I never understood the argument of parents having the power to kill their child, are you saying if your father stabbed you rn you would be okay with it? what?
Also yes it's their responsibility to carry it out because surprise, intercourse produces babies, it's meant to produce babies, and as adults they should be taking that into account and as their responsibility if they ever decide to get it on. The baby shouldn't have to die for their poor decision
i think laypeople misunderstand the theory of evolution
it's not about becoming the perfect being, it's about a species maintaining and preserving its existence. evolution is not only physical but psychological, which is why if someone tickles your feet you instinctively squeal like a b****
it's anything that keeps life living, however that may be. humans ending human life when theirs isn't in danger is antithetical to the whole theory because that's the exact opposite of preserving life
there's 7 approaching 8 billion people and the vast majority don't have access to or even worry about abortion so abortion is definitely a threat to the survival of the human race and ~~~the sanctity of life~~~
the bold text is where it stops being about the child and starts being about you. what you want, and imposing that belief onto someone else for the fate of their existence. why not let them decide when they're capable, and those who think the way you do will choose what you choose but those who don't won't be killed before having that choice
Ethic Debate
