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almost 8 years

There needs to be a system in place that would allow mods to be properly measured in there ability to handle reports fairly and properly. I very much doubt that there is some one who consistently looks over every report and evaluates if mods are making the correct verdicts.

Why not implement a way to allow the community to "vote" on the end report verdicts and let the players decide if they believe the decision is fair or not. This would prevent any sort of mod abuse and allows the people who run the site an easy way to evaluate wether or not the mods are doing there job well. This also would be helpful for mods in the appeal process, as mods would be able to read the results and if the overwhelming majority of people believe the verdict given was incorrect, they know that the report needs to be reassessed.

One possible way to do this would be to implement a poll after a report decision has been made. Mods would still have the ultimate power in the final decision, but at least this way we give the community an easy route to help improve and monitor the site.

Do you believe this is good idea?
37
No
16
Yes
almost 8 years

Rutab says


ReverseNinthMushroom says


Venus says

Let me guess now white is part of our clique ?


What he said actually enforces my argument once again im not arguing for a poll it was just simply a suggestion Im just arguing for the ability to monitor the mods to help improve quality and fairness.


Okay, then why don't you just gather a group of friends and monitor our decisions?


You clearly havent read a word of what i said.... You still have all the power.
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Rutab says


ReverseNinthMushroom says


Rutab says

I spent this entire thread telling you why you're wrong, and you give me some BS rebuttal (For Bebop -- ;) https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/rebuttal)

and every time we answer you say we're a clique, biased, and "close minded"

no


You havent given me and actual reasons why it wont work, youve brought up issues and ive provided solutions


but what you dont understand is that your solutions dont work


How do you know it doesn't work? I know the current system in place doesn't work as well as it should there is actually evidence that shows this. You have no actual proof that my proposed idea would work or not.
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We all have given reasons.
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ReverseNinthMushroom says


Venus says

Let me guess now white is part of our clique ?


What he said actually enforces my argument once again im not arguing for a poll it was just simply a suggestion Im just arguing for the ability to monitor the mods to help improve quality and fairness.


Okay, then why don't you just gather a group of friends and monitor our decisions?
almost 8 years

ReverseNinthMushroom says


Stiffy says

Has there been anyone in this topic who thought your plan was a good idea that would actually work out well? Honest question cause I don't wanna read through every page.

Like, you came up with a possible solution to something you see as a problem, and that's cool man, but when everyone is telling you it's not a good idea, at some point you need to stop beating the dead horse...


Only a few people have actually disagreed with me and stated why, but they have yet to provide a reason that i couldent counter on why the system wouldent work Rutab has came to the point where he just says "You dont know the community" Venus just keeps spamming random stuff trying to twist my words etc...



Stiffy says

The fact of the matter is that once you designate people as mods they need to have a good understanding of the rules and the vios, the general player base does not. The mods are also expected to be held accountable for their actions and put actual thought and effort into reports, whereas the general player base could just vote however they like; not even read a game in question; vote so their friend doesn't get a vio; use alts to skew the poll; or just troll the polls in general cause they can do whatever they want.

Your idea doesn't work in any capacity. The vast majority of reports don't even get appealed because people are aware of how they broke the rules and just accept where they messed up.

I think the amount of people who would care enough to take the polls seriously are the people who already read and comment on reports as it is now.


Please counter all the reasons I pointed out that you ignored, ty.
almost 8 years

Venus says

Let me guess now white is part of our clique ?


What he said actually enforces my argument once again im not arguing for a poll it was just simply a suggestion Im just arguing for the ability to monitor the mods to help improve quality and fairness.
almost 8 years

ReverseNinthMushroom says


Rutab says

I spent this entire thread telling you why you're wrong, and you give me some BS rebuttal (For Bebop -- ;) https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/rebuttal)

and every time we answer you say we're a clique, biased, and "close minded"

no


You havent given me and actual reasons why it wont work, youve brought up issues and ive provided solutions


but what you dont understand is that your solutions dont work
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You haven't provided any solutions
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I'm not twisting your words
almost 8 years

Rutab says

I spent this entire thread telling you why you're wrong, and you give me some BS rebuttal (For Bebop -- ;) https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/rebuttal)

and every time we answer you say we're a clique, biased, and "close minded"

no


You havent given me and actual reasons why it wont work, youve brought up issues and ive provided solutions
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Let me guess now white is part of our clique ?
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Stiffy says

Has there been anyone in this topic who thought your plan was a good idea that would actually work out well? Honest question cause I don't wanna read through every page.

Like, you came up with a possible solution to something you see as a problem, and that's cool man, but when everyone is telling you it's not a good idea, at some point you need to stop beating the dead horse...


Only a few people have actually disagreed with me and stated why, but they have yet to provide a reason that i couldent counter on why the system wouldent work Rutab has came to the point where he just says "You dont know the community" Venus just keeps spamming random stuff trying to twist my words etc...
almost 8 years
I'm always up for reading complaints about mods. But the argument sucks. We need to have better mods and not make the community sift through all that crap. That's literally why we have the mods do it.
almost 8 years
I spent this entire thread telling you why you're wrong, and you give me some BS rebuttal (For Bebop -- ;) https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/rebuttal)

and every time we answer you say we're a clique, biased, and "close minded"

no
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He's not close minded he's been here long enough to know how this community works
almost 8 years

Rutab says

Reverse I'm sorry but you truly have no comprehension of anything related to the politics of this website


Please enlighten me, mr close minded.
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Sulfur but he seems salty about not being a mod
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Has there been anyone in this topic who thought your plan was a good idea that would actually work out well? Honest question cause I don't wanna read through every page.

Like, you came up with a possible solution to something you see as a problem, and that's cool man, but when everyone is telling you it's not a good idea, at some point you need to stop beating the dead horse...
almost 8 years
Reverse I'm sorry but you truly have no comprehension of anything related to the politics of this website
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Devante says


Venus says

Dev do you know how many times this has been explained?


nah i just sorta jumped in on whatever page i started typing

i didn't even read the op but im sure u guys went over this with him already lol


role mods have to go thru the votes and pick out the alts the friends and the trolls. Apparently they have more hours in a day than I do
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Devante says


ReverseNinthMushroom says


Devante says

one of the only things that functions properly on this website is the moderation system, that being there's a report, one person handles it then it can be appealed by two different people, sometimes a higher up can veto it


nothing about that needs to change at all, only the people playing each role in the process


Even with all of that reports are still not all handled properly.... thats the issue.


the court lets the community (jury members) decide on a lot of high profile cases, there's still innocent people who are on death row and serving life in prison because of the community


Is this really your argument are you implying if we were say under a dictatorship that there would be less innocent people put to death or put in jail.
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Rutab says


Venus says

Rutab doesn't have any friends


:(


Go graze.
almost 8 years

Venus says

Rutab doesn't have any friends


:(
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Lmfao no it doesn't
almost 8 years

Venus says

Dev do you know how many times this has been explained?


nah i just sorta jumped in on whatever page i started typing

i didn't even read the op but im sure u guys went over this with him already lol