Epicmafia

Mod Moderation System

almost 8 years

There needs to be a system in place that would allow mods to be properly measured in there ability to handle reports fairly and properly. I very much doubt that there is some one who consistently looks over every report and evaluates if mods are making the correct verdicts.

Why not implement a way to allow the community to "vote" on the end report verdicts and let the players decide if they believe the decision is fair or not. This would prevent any sort of mod abuse and allows the people who run the site an easy way to evaluate wether or not the mods are doing there job well. This also would be helpful for mods in the appeal process, as mods would be able to read the results and if the overwhelming majority of people believe the verdict given was incorrect, they know that the report needs to be reassessed.

One possible way to do this would be to implement a poll after a report decision has been made. Mods would still have the ultimate power in the final decision, but at least this way we give the community an easy route to help improve and monitor the site.

Do you believe this is good idea?

Yes

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

Rutab says

Even if this is a troll, I quite enjoyed winning the debates ;)

I destroyed you and your cronies with every argument you all tried to make.

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

Stiffy says

ReverseNinthMushroom says

Soluciones says

stop arguing he must show proof or it's useless

I showed two examples of proof firstly he admitted to 10% of verdicts being wrong, then he backtracked and made up an excuse instead of admitting fault, hes a mod so hes a person who would look at ur reports.

He literally didn't "admit 10% of verdicts are wrong", for starters he was talking about AFTER a mistake was made, maybe 10% of the time it's not fixed. So 99% of reports are mistake-free. Of that 1% maybe 10% (Rutab's generous number) are not fixed. That's not 10% of reports being wrong. That's 0.1% of reports that went wrong not being fixed.

Reverse you need to take a break. The poor horse is ground meat at this point, please stop beating it.

he said 1 IN 10 reports arent handled properly any way you look at it thats 10% of reports that are wrong.

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ReverseNinthMushroom says

I don"t care if theres a poll or not, you guys just haven't given any actual valid information as to why it would fail, as your entire argument relies on the fact of "the community cant handle it" which is an opinionated statement and unless you provide real evidence as to why the entire community not just a few select people couldn't handle it is baseless.

All I said was there needs to be some sort of way that we can hold mods accountable, I simply offered 1 suggestion.

LazyYami says

Honestly the only problem w/ this system is how bias communities can be. Chances are that if this system ever became a thing, there'll be at least one person that community is against and will blindly vote against. The only way I could really see this working is if there was some type of honor system to help prevent people from saying 'this deserves a vio' then later on for the same report saying 'no vio needed' just because it's a person they don't like.

How is my post not a fail point in this system?

Rutab

almost 8 years

Okay but what if I was there right now ;)

AsbelLhant

almost 8 years

I like you but winky faces make me instantly dislike things

Rutab

almost 8 years

Even if this is a troll, I quite enjoyed winning the debates ;)

AsbelLhant

almost 8 years

AsbelLhant says

Professional trolling. Ban this person.

MAN got u guise

Rutab

almost 8 years

ReverseNinthMushroom says

Rutab says

You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts

We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed

1 out of 10 reports are not handled properly according to you.

That wasn't a serious stat
That's probably way more than it really is. It's more like 2--3% probably

Stiffy

almost 8 years

ReverseNinthMushroom says

Soluciones says

stop arguing he must show proof or it's useless

I showed two examples of proof firstly he admitted to 10% of verdicts being wrong, then he backtracked and made up an excuse instead of admitting fault, hes a mod so hes a person who would look at ur reports.

He literally didn't "admit 10% of verdicts are wrong", for starters he was talking about AFTER a mistake was made, maybe 10% of the time it's not fixed. So 99% of reports are mistake-free. Of that 1% maybe 10% (Rutab's generous number) are not fixed. That's not 10% of reports being wrong. That's 0.1% of reports that went wrong not being fixed.

Reverse you need to take a break. The poor horse is ground meat at this point, please stop beating it.

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ok but i want links, i can look at the reports.

otherwise i can say you killed michael jackson without proof

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

Soluciones says

stop arguing he must show proof or it's useless

I showed two examples of proof firstly he admitted to 10% of verdicts being wrong, then he backtracked and made up an excuse instead of admitting fault, hes a mod so hes a person who would look at ur reports.

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aight Im out. this is where you slowly realize that an argument only exists if there is someone to argue against. Have fun as this thread slowly creeps into obscurity. Im sure youll be back next week though with some user moderation idea a la what youtube recently did.

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

So hes making up numbers to try and prove his point, and then backtracks trying to cover his instead of admitting his fault. Kind of what happens during reports...

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stop arguing he must show proof or it's useless

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

Rutab says

You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts

We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed

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ReverseNinthMushroom says

StanleyPower says

show me a complaint thread where nothing was done, where the mod unequivocally gave the wrong verdict.

That should be pretty easy to do based off the tone of this thread

A moderator already acknowledged that 10% of verdicts are wrong, why should he have to go through any extra effort when the conclusion has already been made.

dude, you have been dumb this entire thread, but I enjoyed arguing with you because at least youre passionate and coming from a place of honesty.

Dont mix dumb with pedantic though, that's not fun to argue with.

Rutab says

I pulled that number out of my butt

And that "10%" is why the appeal system is in place

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LINKS LINKS LINKS (or gtfo)

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

StanleyPower says

show me a complaint thread where nothing was done, where the mod unequivocally gave the wrong verdict.

That should be pretty easy to do based off the tone of this thread

A moderator already acknowledged that 10% of verdicts are wrong, why should he have to go through any extra effort when the conclusion has already been made.

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show me a complaint thread where nothing was done, where the mod unequivocally gave the wrong verdict.

That should be pretty easy to do based off the tone of this thread

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

Rutab says

You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts

We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed

1 out of 10 reports are not handled properly according to you.

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ReverseNinthMushroom says

Rutab says

Continuous wrong verdicts do not happen broski

Its not very often

How can you prove that? you don't have a system in place that accurately moderates mods performance, so now you're just making baseless claims again.

this isnt facebook. there doesnt need to be some standardized system in place for every minute detail.

the best part of this thread is the title knows exactly how dumb it is: moderation moderation system

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

Rutab says

ReverseNinthMushroom says

Rutab says

Continuous wrong verdicts do not happen broski

Its not very often

How can you prove that? you don't have a system in place that accurately moderates mods performance, so now you're just making baseless claims again.

Your claims are as baseless as mine then...

No there not because you've already admitted that 10% are not properly handled.

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StanleyPower says

Lono says

you don't need any examples of continous wrong verdicts, we all know they happen, lets not play devils advocate to everything

that's why there is an appeal system, and if that fails, a complaint subsection of the forum so you can engage the community with your greivances. Or you can pm the admin/a mod you think has a better grasp on the rules personally

nothing ever happens as a result of the complaint section, people just get trolled, ive yet to see any mod held accountable for anything

ReverseNinthMushroom

almost 8 years

StanleyPower says

Lono says

you don't need any examples of continous wrong verdicts, we all know they happen, lets not play devils advocate to everything

that's why there is an appeal system, and if that fails, a complaint subsection of the forum so you can engage the community with your greivances. Or you can pm the admin/a mod you think has a better grasp on the rules personally

Mods have no obligation to do anything there is no accountability.... your word against theres, they have all the power.

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