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almost 8 years

There needs to be a system in place that would allow mods to be properly measured in there ability to handle reports fairly and properly. I very much doubt that there is some one who consistently looks over every report and evaluates if mods are making the correct verdicts.

Why not implement a way to allow the community to "vote" on the end report verdicts and let the players decide if they believe the decision is fair or not. This would prevent any sort of mod abuse and allows the people who run the site an easy way to evaluate wether or not the mods are doing there job well. This also would be helpful for mods in the appeal process, as mods would be able to read the results and if the overwhelming majority of people believe the verdict given was incorrect, they know that the report needs to be reassessed.

One possible way to do this would be to implement a poll after a report decision has been made. Mods would still have the ultimate power in the final decision, but at least this way we give the community an easy route to help improve and monitor the site.

Do you believe this is good idea?
37
No
16
Yes
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i just want... the links...
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ReverseNinthMushroom says


Rutab says

Continuous wrong verdicts do not happen broski

Its not very often


How can you prove that? you don't have a system in place that accurately moderates mods performance, so now you're just making baseless claims again.


Your claims are as baseless as mine then...
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ReverseNinthMushroom says


Rutab says

You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts

We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed


Thats why something like this needs to be in place.. If some one makes a wrong decision they are more then likely to do it again.

10% is way much ..... majority of reports are handled properly but like you've admitted here at least 10% are not, and there needs to be a way to fix that.


I pulled that number out of my butt

And that "10%" is why the appeal system is in place
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ReverseNinthMushroom says


Rutab says

OK, disregarding the poll, your idea is "hold mods accountable for mistakes"

??


If a mod continuously makes the wrong verdicts, something should be done...


give the links
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Rutab says

Continuous wrong verdicts do not happen broski

Its not very often


How can you prove that? you don't have a system in place that accurately moderates mods performance, so now you're just making baseless claims again.
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Lono says

you don't need any examples of continous wrong verdicts, we all know they happen, lets not play devils advocate to everything


that's why there is an appeal system, and if that fails, a complaint subsection of the forum so you can engage the community with your greivances. Or you can pm the admin/a mod you think has a better grasp on the rules personally
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Rutab says

You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts

We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed


Thats why something like this needs to be in place.. If some one makes a wrong decision they are more then likely to do it again.

10% is way much ..... majority of reports are handled properly but like you've admitted here at least 10% are not, and there needs to be a way to fix that.
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Continuous wrong verdicts do not happen broski

Its not very often
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you don't need any examples of continous wrong verdicts, we all know they happen, lets not play devils advocate to everything
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epicmafia is a game that's too reliant on luck because there is no guarentee that youll ever be put in a position where you can directly effect the outcome of the game and is really only a party game at it's heart. Any attempt to make it competitive is ill conceived.

Okay, that's a legitimate problem with epicmafia, let's work on some solutions here.

One idea I had was to add fps elements to it to raise the skill cap. But that's just a suggestion, Im really just working at making em better.

But youre not allowed to insult my fps idea unless you can come up with a better idea
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You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts

We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed
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Rutab says

OK, disregarding the poll, your idea is "hold mods accountable for mistakes"

??


If a mod continuously makes the wrong verdicts, something should be done...
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OK, disregarding the poll, your idea is "hold mods accountable for mistakes"

??
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StanleyPower says

youve had 14 pages of reasons that youve dodged around every time. (see: the fact youre not even trying to defend the poll idea anymore...which was pretty much...your entire idea)

So is this thread just a "there needs to be a better way to give moderators feedback" thread now? Because that is true and will always be true on this site and every other site. But at least here, youre able to converse directly with moderators no matter how stupid your idea is (see: this thread)


My idea is any sort of implementation of a better way to moderate mod performance, the poll was just a suggestion.

Please show examples of where ive dodged anything i have answered literally everything thats been proposed to me
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youve had 14 pages of reasons that youve dodged around every time. (see: the fact youre not even trying to defend the poll idea anymore...which was pretty much...your entire idea)

So is this thread just a "there needs to be a better way to give moderators feedback" thread now? Because that is true and will always be true on this site and every other site. But at least here, youre able to converse directly with moderators no matter how stupid your idea is (see: this thread)
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why do you want this? what report are you mad for
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StanleyPower says

when your head is so deep inside your own butt, that you dont know up from down, are unwilling to listen to reason, and your horrible idea thread is wildly successful just because of the number of people it has managed to bewilder.


You don't understand... the idea of a poll or w/e is irrelevant to me at this point. Im just waiting for some one to actually give real backed up reasons that I cant counter. I have only seen 1 post from anyone here that actually counters my idea effectively.
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Egotists are unwilling to let go of their ideas, not because they believe in their merit, but because they enjoy the idea of having their own ideas

-Stanley Power
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when your head is so deep inside your own butt, that you dont know up from down, are unwilling to listen to reason, and your horrible idea thread is wildly successful just because of the number of people it has managed to bewilder.
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Devante says

everyone who has been on both sides of the aisle has unanimously agreed that your idea is asinine, i haven't seen one person come up in this thread who has been a mod, a role mod, or even a regular player and said your idea wasn't garbage


If you read you would see there are a few regular players who have defended the idea, wether its idea of a poll or the idea of some sort of moderation needed. Mods and Role Mods are definitely biased in this issue as it takes as away there power and directly affects them.
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Devante says

with that alt slip at least 2/8 (25%) of the votes in favor of your system are you


compared to 30 most likely all unique votes


with your own rigging the votes do you see how stupid your idea is but also how easy it will be for people to double vote in your stupid system?


I only voted once why are you making baseless claims and the majority of the people who voted no
are associated with one another through one way or another wether there past mods role mods etc...
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Rutab says


ReverseNinthMushroom says

Plus I believe the majority of the "No" players are competitive players and dont experience the same type of issues that those who play the more popular ranked setups. Notice how the "Yes" voters essentially all play the more popular ranked games as apposed to the competitive players.


This absolutely does not matter, especially since competitive players generally have a better and more expansive knowledge on everything regarding gameplay and mechanics.


But they dont have a better understanding with the issues in the current system as there reports are handled with more care.
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LazyYami says

Honestly the only problem w/ this system is how bias communities can be. Chances are that if this system ever became a thing, there'll be at least one person that community is against and will blindly vote against. The only way I could really see this working is if there was some type of honor system to help prevent people from saying 'this deserves a vio' then later on for the same report saying 'no vio needed' just because it's a person they don't like.


This is just a suggestion for a more important issue.

Limit to people of certain scores, hold players who abuse the system accountable, mods have final look.
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ReverseNinthMushroom says

I don"t care if theres a poll or not, you guys just haven't given any actual valid information as to why it would fail, as your entire argument relies on the fact of "the community cant handle it" which is an opinionated statement and unless you provide real evidence as to why the entire community not just a few select people couldn't handle it is baseless.

All I said was there needs to be some sort of way that we can hold mods accountable, I simply offered 1 suggestion.

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