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Changing hipfire precedence.

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The mods have decided to change how we will treat hipfiring from this point forward. Since now, Moderators have been treating hipfires on a different basis depending on it being red heart game or a gold heart game, giving trolling for red hearts and gt for gold hearts. This is counter-intuitive because not all hipfiring is exactly GT, given that it requires intent and is only sub-optimal at times. This has been discussed and changed in mind of the coming round(s), in which it will come down to moderator discretion on whether the hipfire is trolling/gt. This does not mean that you should go and hipfire your friends, as GT will still be given accordingly for those who shoot players out of grudge or into near autoloss situations.

about 8 years

DahliaHawthorne says

It doesn't make sense for the same situation to be explicitly trolling in one game and explicitly gamethrowing in another, based simply on whether a game is a gold heart or not. Calm your t*ts people.


God look at this post. Shows the mods dont even know what they're talking about
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Retti says

All we did was revert it back to the precedence established me/Goodbar made.


You're the worst.
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Becomeclear says

Then make it the same for both? What do you need mod discretion for?



Because if someone hipfires and does it knowingly against their win condition then they are game throwing and if they're just doing it with a f**k it attitude it's trolling, silly! Gamethrowing requires intent you can't just say X is always gamethrowing!
about 8 years
Nobody's whining, can't you keep this civil?
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y'all whine about consistency until a decision is made in consistency's sake it's pretty hypocritical don't you think?
about 8 years
Then make it the same for both? What do you need mod discretion for?
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It doesn't make sense for the same situation to be explicitly trolling in one game and explicitly gamethrowing in another, based simply on whether a game is a gold heart or not. Calm your t*ts people.
about 8 years
If I were admin I'd never accept "mod discretion" as the solution to any rule. It just creates more problems
about 8 years
I'm just stating the obvious here
about 8 years

Naikon says

Grudge shooting is a totally different case. That is clearly GT and if the mod is unable to differentiate grudge shooting and hipfiring then they should be demodded


^^^^^^^^^^^ wow good stuff
about 8 years
Grudge shooting is a totally different case. That is clearly GT and if the mod is unable to differentiate grudge shooting and hipfiring then they should be demodded
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i hip fired rutab
about 8 years
Just set it to trolling then. Why do you want more threads created on hipfiring by letting it be up to the moderator (who's probably favoring their friend and being harsher on nonfriends)
about 8 years
Also I'm not a huge fan of arguing reports against me nor do I make reports on other people myself so this really has nothing to do with me
about 8 years
Look friend I'm not against you or anything I just think that you should make the rules clear and cut. If you hipfire, you get A.
about 8 years
Then change the rule to that, don't leave it out to "mod discretion"
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Becomeclear says

What was changed is you decide what's changed on a case by case basis


Then it's something you argue with the mod/report in question, which is discretion is placed. Generally most of us agree on it being trolling if it didn't cause autoloss/wasn't grudge, so this only benefits people.
about 8 years
I mean, isn't this a severe form of Trolling anyways? It might as well be GT, because if it's proven a hipfire then the shooter doesn't care about winning the game lol
about 8 years
What was changed is you decide what's changed on a case by case basis
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Do you want people to get GT regardless of the outcome in gold heart? That's what was changed.
about 8 years

Retti says

All we did was revert it back to the precedence established me/Goodbar made.


And all we did was say that you are wrong
about 8 years
Well you and Goodbar probably shouldn't insert your opinion. Mod discretion as the solution to any rule is a terrible idea. Just look at the state of HC
about 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/report/196723

everyone interested in hipfire should look at this report/game btw.
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All we did was revert it back to the precedence established me/Goodbar made.
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Coming down to mod discretion means 70% will be wrong