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Changing hipfire precedence.

deletedabout 8 years

The mods have decided to change how we will treat hipfiring from this point forward. Since now, Moderators have been treating hipfires on a different basis depending on it being red heart game or a gold heart game, giving trolling for red hearts and gt for gold hearts. This is counter-intuitive because not all hipfiring is exactly GT, given that it requires intent and is only sub-optimal at times. This has been discussed and changed in mind of the coming round(s), in which it will come down to moderator discretion on whether the hipfire is trolling/gt. This does not mean that you should go and hipfire your friends, as GT will still be given accordingly for those who shoot players out of grudge or into near autoloss situations.

about 8 years
Which actually have more depth in them then the whole lot of 1.542 megabyte's of data these gif's have
about 8 years
i'm not exactly sure what all the fuss is about when this rule means the you're more likely to get either a less severe violation for hipfiring or get no violation at all. previously, the guidelines were that hipfiring in red heart was always trolling and that hipfiring in gold heart was always gamethrowing. with the implementation of this new rule, it's being left up to the discretion of the moderator handling the case. whilst i cannot speak on behalf of the other mods (but i'm sure they'll agree with me), i'm going to be looking very closely at the intent behind the action. if it's not intentionally playing against your win condition, it won't get the game throwing violation. if it's not playing with the intent to antagonise players or derive a negative reaction, it wont receive the trolling violation. this will often mean that you'll get less severe violations or no violations at all, as the majority of hipfires aren't done with the intent to throw the game. i hope i've been able to explain this sufficiently to you but if you'd like to know anything else please don't hesitate to ask.
about 8 years
If this kind person can spam pointless gifs I can post pointless lyrics
about 8 years

Naikon says

Delete Becomeclear's account

about 8 years
О тех дня, что ушли. О днях, что сейчас.
И тех, что не придут.
Оставь, всё оставь.
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about 8 years
Oh whoops you're right. My love for guns got in the way of my thought process
about 8 years
Всё, что случилось обратно не вернуть.
Помни ошибки, не повторяя путь.
И что ожидает нам тоже не узнать.
Спи, успокойся. Скоро придется встать.
И спешить в суету, спешить в пустоту.
Не хитрых будних дел.
Не зная о том, что вслед за тобой
Кто-то полетел.
about 8 years
Delete Becomeclear's account
about 8 years
О тех днях, что ушли. О днях, что сейчас.
И тех, что не придут.
Оставь, всё оставь.
Ангелы здесь. Они нас берегут.
about 8 years
Hipfiring is actually really easy to spot. I'm not sure if you know this. It generally happens on d1 without claims
about 8 years
is the rule wrong in the way it's written?
about 8 years
Знаешь, однажды, когда все лягут спать -
Сон не придет к тебе, но не захочешь встать.
Растянув своё тело на светлых простынях,
Ты будешь думать, переживать о днях.
about 8 years
Poser that situation wouldn't be hipfiring though.
about 8 years
I'm personally in favor of blacklisting every setup without a gun so that hipfiring can become the standard on this site, what are we without guns after all? This site is made in the US
about 8 years
the rule says not playing to win though
about 8 years
?
about 8 years
"not playing to win" and "trying to lose" are much different things, my friends
deletedabout 8 years
TBQH I'm of the opinion hipfiring should just be allowed because gun setups are stupid!
about 8 years

poser says

Nobody is going to be favoring friends with this rule, it's purely because hipfiring is not always GT nor is it always trolling therefore it's unfair to the site and users to give them violations they didn't actually commit. If you ever disagree with a violation that we give (or don't give) you're free to and encouraged to appeal the decision. None of us want an incorrect verdict, which is exactly why the precedent is changed now.


why wouldn't hipfiring always be "not playing to win"
about 8 years
poser, the reason you have to deal with these arguments so often is because you want it to be based on discretion. Mods will never understand this
about 8 years

Retti says

Would you rather mods just follow stringent rules like a couple of robots or allow things to be left up to interpretation? This makes it easier not only for players but for mods because it's much easier to monitor a decision, because right now it was just 'red heart is trolling and gold heart is GT', which isn't fair.


It should be set in stone trolling in all cases of hipfiring unless it's a grudge m8
deletedabout 8 years

Naikon says

This is the part where mods run off to their corners and refuse to admit they're wrong


about 8 years
Denial I already overturned that verdict and we went over it in mod chat, there's no need to discuss it further really.
about 8 years
denial the complaints forum is further down I'm sorry friend this isn't the place
deletedabout 8 years
Would you rather mods just follow stringent rules like a couple of robots or allow things to be left up to interpretation? This makes it easier not only for players but for mods because it's much easier to monitor a decision, because right now it was just 'red heart is trolling and gold heart is GT', which isn't fair.