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Changing hipfire precedence.

deletedalmost 9 years

The mods have decided to change how we will treat hipfiring from this point forward. Since now, Moderators have been treating hipfires on a different basis depending on it being red heart game or a gold heart game, giving trolling for red hearts and gt for gold hearts. This is counter-intuitive because not all hipfiring is exactly GT, given that it requires intent and is only sub-optimal at times. This has been discussed and changed in mind of the coming round(s), in which it will come down to moderator discretion on whether the hipfire is trolling/gt. This does not mean that you should go and hipfire your friends, as GT will still be given accordingly for those who shoot players out of grudge or into near autoloss situations.

Becomeclear
almost 9 years
Над нашей половиной мира ночь
Ни вздоха, ни шороха
Мы сладко спим, мы спим как все
На бочке пороха
И если завтра всё подпрыгнет вверх
И ветры разметают дым
Мы все смотрели, как они стирают Мир
Так значит...
Tatami
almost 9 years
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thecolonel
almost 9 years

Bebop says


thecolonel says

why are you saying "you" like everyone in this thread hipfires?


i'm saying it because i'm referring to people in general? this point has nothing to do with what i was saying.


thecolonel says

i want worse punishments for people who waste my time. i don't think you understand what your job as a game moderator is. it isn't to figure out how mean you should be to people. it's to make the game you're moderating playable


if they're gamethrowing they'll get gamethrowing, if they're trolling they'll get trolling. i'm not trying to be mean to people nor was this the decision of solely one person.


thecolonel says

when would hipfiring ever be playing towards your win condition in a decent setup?


decent being the keyword here.


thecolonel says

why would doing something with the intent of getting negative reactions from people get you a lighter punishment than doing it for no reason?


what? if you're doing something with the intent of getting negative reactions it's trolling, i don't see how that's a lighter punishment than doing it for no reason.


you would have been better off posting more frogs
Bebop
almost 9 years

Becomeclear says

Bebop with all due to respect aren't you a sandbox god?
How would you know what's a decent competitive setup lol


firstly, yes, i am a sandbox god. secondly, what a decent competitive setup is has no bearing on the rules of the site.
Becomeclear
almost 9 years
okay every time a mod posts a gif im posting lyrics
Солнце - такой долгий ядерный взрыв
Мы согреты теплом этого света
И немного Солнца мы прячем в ракетах
Если вдруг захочется жаркого лета
Если мы захотим тепла себе и другим
Нас всегда спасут наши командиры
Жестяные банки ринутся вверх
В них вся Любовь и Вера этого Мира

Над нашей половиной мира ночь
Ни вздоха, ни шороха
Мы сладко спим, мы спим как все
На бочке пороха
И если завтра всё подпрыгнет вверх
И ветры разметают дым
Мы все смотрели, как они стирают Мир
Так значит ЧЁРТ С НИМ!
poser
almost 9 years
A note is no violation, it's purely to document it for the future
deletedalmost 9 years
epicmafia is out my outlet and ive come here to express myself without consequence

i have no friends and i want to kill myself
denial
almost 9 years

poser says

Denial I already overturned that verdict and we went over it in mod chat, there's no need to discuss it further really.


yes, there is. because you still gave him a note when it should be a no vio
Becomeclear
almost 9 years
Bebop with all due to respect aren't you a sandbox god?
How would you know what's a decent competitive setup lol
poser
almost 9 years
the inevitable hipfiring debate

Bebop
almost 9 years

thecolonel says

why are you saying "you" like everyone in this thread hipfires?


i'm saying it because i'm referring to people in general? this point has nothing to do with what i was saying.


thecolonel says

i want worse punishments for people who waste my time. i don't think you understand what your job as a game moderator is. it isn't to figure out how mean you should be to people. it's to make the game you're moderating playable


if they're gamethrowing they'll get gamethrowing, if they're trolling they'll get trolling. i'm not trying to be mean to people nor was this the decision of solely one person.


thecolonel says

when would hipfiring ever be playing towards your win condition in a decent setup?


decent being the keyword here.


thecolonel says

why would doing something with the intent of getting negative reactions from people get you a lighter punishment than doing it for no reason?


what? if you're doing something with the intent of getting negative reactions it's trolling, i don't see how that's a lighter punishment than doing it for no reason.
Escurai
almost 9 years
These madmen predicting the fall of faker watch them eat their own words in the next hour
thecolonel
almost 9 years
this is why you guys need to make me a mod
Becomeclear
almost 9 years
Children get out
Naikon
almost 9 years

Escurai says

C9 VS SKT BIG SHOW DOWN ON D2 OF WORLDS http://watch.euw.lolesports.com/en_GB/worldchampionship/en


Cool. Gonna watch
poser
almost 9 years
Dead secretary is always a good morning
Escurai
almost 9 years
C9 VS SKT BIG SHOW DOWN ON D2 OF WORLDS http://watch.euw.lolesports.com/en_GB/worldchampionship/en
deletedalmost 9 years
i think yellow shot him
PonyLove
almost 9 years
Cause no one reported you?
deletedalmost 9 years
I decided to test out this new "hipfiring" theory and I'm honestly confused as to how anyone gets banned here...



how did I get away with this?
PonyLove
almost 9 years

PatrykSzczescie says

We can still appeal if we don't agree with the violation we received. Hipfiring vio depends on the motive, we can explain ours.


exactly
thecolonel
almost 9 years
don't give his post +10 like it makes any sense poser wtf
thecolonel
almost 9 years

Bebop says

i'm not exactly sure what all the fuss is about when this rule means the you're more likely to get either a less severe violation for hipfiring or get no violation at all. previously, the guidelines were that hipfiring in red heart was always trolling and that hipfiring in gold heart was always gamethrowing. with the implementation of this new rule, it's being left up to the discretion of the moderator handling the case. whilst i cannot speak on behalf of the other mods (but i'm sure they'll agree with me), i'm going to be looking very closely at the intent behind the action. if it's not intentionally playing against your win condition, it won't get the game throwing violation. if it's not playing with the intent to antagonise players or derive a negative reaction, it wont receive the trolling violation. this will often mean that you'll get less severe violations or no violations at all, as the majority of hipfires aren't done with the intent to throw the game. i hope i've been able to explain this sufficiently to you but if you'd like to know anything else please don't hesitate to ask.


why are you saying "you" like everyone in this thread hipfires? i want worse punishments for people who waste my time. i don't think you understand what your job as a game moderator is. it isn't to figure out how mean you should be to people. it's to make the game you're moderating playable

when would hipfiring ever be playing towards your win condition in a decent setup?

why would doing something with the intent of getting negative reactions from people get you a lighter punishment than doing it for no reason?
PatrykSzczescie
almost 9 years
We can still appeal if we don't agree with the violation we received. Hipfiring vio depends on the motive, we can explain ours.
Naikon
almost 9 years

Bebop says

i hope i've been able to explain this sufficiently to you but if you'd like to know anything else please don't hesitate to ask.


But I'm telling you it is 100% trolling in every case of hipfiring and GT when its based on a grudge

Mod discretion means it can be either violations. Do you know why that's a problem?

Let's say DahliaHawthorne takes a report opened on Becomeclear for hipfiring and gives it GT'ing out of spite. Now Becomeclear complains on forums. Then it takes you mods a whole day to deal with it and decide he trolled that game. That's a waste of time isn't it?