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The Bible Thread

Kaioxys
about 8 years

Ask anything. I will not answer you. I will give you God's answer straight out of the Bible.

"For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through endurance and through the comfort from the scriptures we might have hope." - Romans 15:4

As time goes by, I will add important teachings to this opening thread, for ease of access to popular topics.

If you want to ask me personal questions, just PM me.

NOTES: 1.) I answer the questions in the order they were received. But if I feel that an answer I gave was either incorrect or not complete enough, I will definitely go back and revise it. 2.) I cite ALOT of scriptures, and when I do that, it's not so you can just assume that there's a scripture related to what I said. I want you to look it up yourself. You can do that easily by copy/pasting the cited scripture into the search field at: wol.jw.org Once you do that, you can view multiple translations by clicking the verse number, and you can see the chapter that the verse is from by clicking the link to the citation.

POPULAR TOPICS:
Divine Genocide: See my response to ProjectMatt on page 1(it's 2 posts) Homosexuality: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no4-2016-august/bible-say-about-being-gay/

YHWH
about 8 years
Satan
about 8 years
the old testament was the OG god and the new testament is the god where they want to include other doubters of their religions and maybe get them to believe in their god. BASICALLY it was just a conversion tactic.

just like how the crusaders were told they could do anything they wanted and they would be forgiven. it was a tactic to get people enlisted and it's despicable.
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Escurai says

isnt new testament god the nice one and old testement is cranky


Not at all. Notice James 1:17(new testament) which says with him there is "no variableness, neither shadow of turning." (KJV) To explain what this means, think about an object sitting in the sun. As the sun passes through the sky, the shadow changes and moves from place to place. This idea of this illustrations is that he is unchanging to the point that you would not be able to see even a change in a shadow he casts. This goes along perfectly with what is written in Malachi 3:6(old testament) which says "I am Jehovah, I do not change."

Some people say that God has changed. They are going beyond what is written. (1 Corinthians 4:6)
UltraAug
about 8 years
opinions on church of flying spaghetti monster?

personally i quite enjoy spaghetti
Edark
about 8 years
Whitepimp007
about 8 years

Kaioxys says


Whitepimp007 says

I've honestly been sitting here refreshing this page most of today. I hope you come back, Kaioxys.


No need for that LOL, when I leave, I'm not coming back for probably 3 days, plus, it takes a ton of time just for research, and then I have to compile the research into a coherent answer that everyone can understand, and that best responds to each person's individual needs. I mean just take Goodbar's response post above, I wrote an answer, prayed about it, and then suddenly felt an urge to delete everything I wrote. So I did. This happened twice. So sometimes, even if I can give an answer, if I feel God is not with me in the answer, I have to just scrap it, which take a lot more time. BTW you probably won't get an answer for a week because I have other questions in line, and I'm answer them in order. So just plz be patient ;P


I would honestly love to have an actual live chat conversation with you about this. We can actually just talk about your beliefs and you don't have to worry about apologetic arguments at all. I'd like to just know more about how you came to your god belief.
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Goodbar says

if i fall in love with a guy and we're both christians, is god gonna let us be together in heaven


continued . . .

Humans going to heaven and being transformed into angels was a new thing that began with Jesus, the "firstborn from the dead"(Revelation 1:5), and was only for a limited number, 144,000. (Revelation 14:3) God's purpose to have a beautiful earth full of righteous humans has not changed. God himself does not change. (Malachi 3:6)

You may be wondering, 'There are so many figurative numbers in Revelation, why do you think that 144,000 is a literal number?' Because of context. Note the way it is written in Revelation 7:4 - "And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000" and it goes on to list some tribes that they are coming from, then it says in verse 9 - "After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number". So, here the writer differentiates this group saying that it doesn't have an exact number, but the previous group he clearly stated the number. This is how by looking at the context, we can tell that 144,000 is a literal number.

BTW, you totally shouldn't fret about living on the earth forever, because the earth is gonna be awesome! After shedding our sin, so many of life's agonies will disappear, leaving the wonderful life that God originally intended for humans.

Just check out these wonderful promises: Revelation 21:4;Isaiah 33:24;35:5,6; John 5:28,29;Psalm 72:16

And these aren't just empty promises like we receive from the local politician. They WILL happen. "you well know with all your heart and all your soul that not one word out of all the good promises that Jehovah your God has spoken to you has failed. They have all come true" - Joshua 23:14(see also Luke 1:37 and Hebrews 6:18
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Goodbar says

if i fall in love with a guy and we're both christians, is god gonna let us be together in heaven


One of my dear friend's favorite scriptures is 1 Peter 1:22 which says "Now that you have purified yourselves by your obedience to the truth with unhypocritical brotherly affection as the result, love one another intensely from the heart." All christians are united. One body in union with Christ Jesus. (Romans 12:5) Nonetheless, I am certain that in the future, when God's Kingdom destroys this corrupt system of things and brings peace to this earth, we will all be united even closer together, as God's love is made perfect in us. (Daniel 2:44; 1 John 4:12)

As for 'being together', after God's love is made perfect in you, out of love for God you will not have the desire to do anything displeasing to him. No longer will we be subject to these words expressed by Paul at Romans 7:19 which says "For I do not do the good that I wish, but the bad that I do not wish is what I practice." So instead of worrying too much about the distant future, focus on serving God now. (Matthew 6:33,34) Do that, and God will take care of you now, and forever.

Additionally, God's original purpose was for Mankind to live on the earth. (Psalm 115:16) Think about it: If Adam never would have sinned, he never would have died, as death was only the consequence of sin, and he would still be alive on earth to this very day. But notice the promises of God in regards to mankind. "For evil men will be done away with, but those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth."; "The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever on it." - Psalm 37:9,29; see also Matthew 5:5
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Zachary says


PatrykSzczescie says

Leviticus 18:22
"Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."


what if one doesn't have sexual relations with a woman, does that mean they should with a man?


Paul was the only unmarried Apostle, and under inspiration by Holy Spirit he wrote, "Now I say to those who are unmarried and to the widows that it is better for them if they remain as I am. But if they do not have self control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be inflamed with passion." - 1 Corinthians 7:10,11

So by saying they should remain as I am, he means he personally thinks they should remain single. So as of now there is no obligation to have sex and bear children as there was originally. (Genesis 1:28) But rather, being single allows one to focus on preaching the good news of the kingdom, as Paul devoted his life to doing. (Matthew 24:14;Philippians 2:17)

Nonetheless, God does not like homosexuality. (Leviticus 18:22) Therefore, never should a man have sex with another man, or a woman with another woman, as such a thing is greatly displeasing to God, whether one is having sexual relations with the opposite sex or not. Truly I tell you that It is better for someone with knowledge of God to remain a virgin than to sin against God by performing homosexual acts. And I reiterate that If someone has a lack of self control, they should get married and engage in sexual relations with their mate.
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Whitepimp007 says

I've honestly been sitting here refreshing this page most of today. I hope you come back, Kaioxys.


No need for that LOL, when I leave, I'm not coming back for probably 3 days, plus, it takes a ton of time just for research, and then I have to compile the research into a coherent answer that everyone can understand, and that best responds to each person's individual needs. I mean just take Goodbar's response post above, I wrote an answer, prayed about it, and then suddenly felt an urge to delete everything I wrote. So I did. This happened twice. So sometimes, even if I can give an answer, if I feel God is not with me in the answer, I have to just scrap it, which take a lot more time. BTW you probably won't get an answer for a week because I have other questions in line, and I'm answer them in order. So just plz be patient ;P
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Goodbar says

is homosexuality a sin?


continued . . .

This means that you needn't feel like you have failed even if you struggle with homosexual inclinations all the way until God gives you true self control in perfection, when he gives everlasting life. But rather, consider it a victory that you are able to restrain yourself to such a degree with God's help.(Philippians 4:6,7) It may seem so difficult that you can never escape your trial. But all things are possible with God. (Matthew 19:26) Additionally, God takes each person's personal situation into consideration when allowing trials to befall them, and he never allows you to have a test too difficult for you. (1 Corinthians 10:13) By no means are you alone in this struggle either, because as 1 Corinthians 10:13 also mentioned, these temptations are "common". Yes, for a fact I know those that have undergone the same situation that you have, and have turned away from their previous lifestyle and have come to serve God whole souled.

I pray earnestly that you pray earnestly and fervently about this matter. It is my desire and God's that both you and your partner come to know God and serve him. In that case, you will have to discontinue sexual relations. But fear not. No matter what you sacrifice for God and His kingdom, he will give you in return far more than you could ever imagine. Meditate carefully on this, I beg of you. Look up and read Luke 18:29, Malachi 3:10, and Ephesians 3:20.

MAIN POINT: Though homosexuality is a sin, If you are a homosexual who refrains from having homosexual sex for the sake of being pleasing to God, he will look on you, and seeing what you have done for him, be overtaken with unbridled joy, forget everything you ever did to offend him, and bless you beyond anything you could ever ask for or conceive.
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Goodbar says

is homosexuality a sin?


Those who practice homosexuality will not inherit God's kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:9,10) That being said, if you have a deeply ingrained inclination to homosexuality and have practiced it avidly, do not feel that you are beyond forgiveness, for God forgave even the wicked King Manasseh who offended him greatly. (2 Chronicles 33:6) When he humbled himself before Jehovah and prayed earnestly for forgiveness, he saved him and restored his kingship. (2 Chronicles 33:12,13)

Remember the first scripture I showed you? (1 Corinthians 6:9,10) Let's keep reading that chapter and see verse 11. "And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God." Yes, even in these ancient times there were those who were all those things verses 9 and 10 talk about, including homosexuals, who repented and put God first, and were consequently loved by Jehovah, Jesus, and the christian congregation alike.

Now, as the article I liked in the OP says,


In saying “that is what some of you were,” does the Bible mean that those who stopped engaging in homosexual acts never again experienced any homosexual desires? That could hardly be the case, because the Bible also exhorts: “Keep walking by spirit and you will carry out no fleshly desire.”—Galatians 5:16.

Note that the Bible does not say that a Christian will never experience an improper desire. Rather, it says that he or she will choose not to carry out that desire. Christians learn to bring such desires under control, not dwelling on them to the point of acting on them.—James 1:14, 15.

Whitepimp007
about 8 years
I've honestly been sitting here refreshing this page most of today. I hope you come back, Kaioxys.
JimSpermWorm
about 8 years
Christ.
JimSpermWorm
about 8 years
Jesus.
AdachiSan
about 8 years

Kaioxys says




Was Jesus a Roman Hoax to trick the Jews into submitting to Roman ideology? Have you noticed that the origin story of Jesus is nearly identical to the origin story of the Cult of Mithras? Do you think Jesus was created to impose a Roman ideology onto the figure of Mithras, who predates Christ?

Why is everything in the bible ripped off straight from Zoroaster?


No it wasn't, no I didn't, and btw, the proof of Jesus' resurrection is the fact that his following is so widespread. Notice how people reacted when Jesus died. All his followers went back to doing what they had been doing before. (John 21:3) But after they realized he was resurrected, no one could stop the preaching work, and Jesus is as famous as he is today. (Acts 5:28-32)

If anything, zoroastrianism stole from the bible, like many other religions, being that Zoroaster created it about 600 years after the current bible was already completed. Note that the idea of dualism is not a biblical teaching.

EDIT: I was incorrect about the timeframe of zoroaster I got confused with the B.C. A.D. thing, He actually lived around 600 years prior to Jesus. Furthermore, I am going to add that I don't know very much about Zoroastrianism other than that he believes in multiple gods and dualism, neither of which are biblical teachings. But in any case, making a full on comparison of the two is beyond me until I actually read whatever literature he made. But I can say that "All scripture is Inspired of God" - 2 Tim 3:16.


Still wrong. Zoroaster predates Plato by 6000 years, and Plato predates Christ by about 325 years. Almost every aspect of the bible, from the flood, to the story of lucifer, to the idea of The Messiah, are stolen directly from Zoroaster.
Dawn
about 8 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88Dh0YkTHo
LeMeJoe
about 8 years

LeMeJoe says

Oooh, I have a question. If I have breakfast for dinner, am I committing an egregious sin?


Clearly God has no answers for the TRULY important questions in life.

I rest my case.
Whitepimp007
about 8 years

Kaioxys says


Whitepimp007 says


Kaioxys says

Furthermore, I am going to add that I don't know very much about Zoroastrianism other than that he believes in multiple gods and dualism, neither of which are biblical teachings.


Mmmm, sorry, I'm afraid you are incorrect. Docetists were a large percentage of first century Christians, along with Marconionists and Gnostics.


I don't deal in what professed 'christians' thought christianity was. I'm only dealing with what the scriptures actually say.

But as for me, I'm gonna head out for the night. Rest assure everyone's questions will be answered . . . eventually. :P


Both my points and your answer are what I am getting at. Why do you consider JWs to be the "True Christians" and Marcionism to be heresy? This is a time so early, the Christian church wasn't even established. To the point where heresy didn't exist. There was only heterodoxy. And if you investigate why Marcionism, Gnosticism, Montanism, Docetism, Arianism, or any of the other early movements are different from what you consider to be orthodox Christianity today, you'll see my point as well.

It's basically the comic below, although I'd like you to ask yourself who is more likely to have the right view of Jesus. A proto-orthodox Jesus community or a movement founded 1800 years after the death of Christ? Please find the answers to these questions and try and answer them. I'd honestly like to know your response.


thecolonel
about 8 years
Was Jesus a Jew?
Kaioxys
about 8 years

Whitepimp007 says


Kaioxys says

Furthermore, I am going to add that I don't know very much about Zoroastrianism other than that he believes in multiple gods and dualism, neither of which are biblical teachings.


Mmmm, sorry, I'm afraid you are incorrect. Docetists were a large percentage of first century Christians, along with Marconionists and Gnostics.


I don't deal in what professed 'christians' thought christianity was. I'm only dealing with what the scriptures actually say.

But as for me, I'm gonna head out for the night. Rest assure everyone's questions will be answered . . . eventually. :P
Whitepimp007
about 8 years

Kaioxys says

Furthermore, I am going to add that I don't know very much about Zoroastrianism other than that he believes in multiple gods and dualism, neither of which are biblical teachings.


Mmmm, sorry, I'm afraid you are incorrect. Docetists were a large percentage of first century Christians, along with Marconionists and Gnostics.
Kaioxys
about 8 years


Was Jesus a Roman Hoax to trick the Jews into submitting to Roman ideology? Have you noticed that the origin story of Jesus is nearly identical to the origin story of the Cult of Mithras? Do you think Jesus was created to impose a Roman ideology onto the figure of Mithras, who predates Christ?

Why is everything in the bible ripped off straight from Zoroaster?




No it wasn't, no I didn't, and btw, the proof of Jesus' resurrection is the fact that his following is so widespread. Notice how people reacted when Jesus died. All his followers went back to doing what they had been doing before. (John 21:3) But after they realized he was resurrected, no one could stop the preaching work, and Jesus is as famous as he is today. (Acts 5:28-32)

If anything, zoroastrianism stole from the bible, like many other religions, being that Zoroaster created it about 600 years after the current bible was already completed. Note that the idea of dualism is not a biblical teaching.

EDIT: I was incorrect about the timeframe of zoroaster I got confused with the B.C. A.D. thing, He actually lived around 600 years prior to Jesus. Furthermore, I am going to add that I don't know very much about Zoroastrianism other than that he believes in multiple gods and dualism, neither of which are biblical teachings. But in any case, making a full on comparison of the two is beyond me until I actually read whatever literature he made. But I can say that "All scripture is Inspired of God" - 2 Tim 3:16.
Luci
about 8 years
okay but a serious question if jesus was black is it a sin that he was inaccurately portrayed all these years as sleazy white guy
Whitepimp007
about 8 years
I almost don't even want to fk with you, but it's me, so I'm gonna do it. Please explain how the Bible is reliable. Also, I swear to Jehovah that I'll start talking about Greco-Roman cynicism, Hellenism, the Gospel of Thomas Jesus movement, and the Q communities if you gloss over this question with a crappy answer.