Epicmafia

It's time

deletedover 8 years

This website is far past the point where having ranked and unranked games in main lobby makes sense.

Both sandbox and main lobby suffer from this weird choice. Unranked games should go in sandbox, which will boost the ever slowing population of 12 person closed setups, and ranked games should go in main lobby.

Without the influx of unranked games being made, competitive games will not be second paged so fast, and thus fill more often, allowing more than 2 setups to be played each round.

Remove unranked games from main lobby

Yes

deletedover 8 years

why don't we make a separate lobby for competitive play! im sure it'd work well

deletedover 8 years

There are people here to hit on e-girls over a themed chatroom and there are people here to play pretend detective.

The latter might only be slightly less lame than the former, but I still don't see why those two groups are in the same lobby.

deletedover 8 years

Calvin says

an innovative and cutting edge idea would be to create a lobby specially for these so called "mafia-purists". the elite of the elite in the game of mafia.

Except this idea is completely dissimilar to competitive lobby and training lobby or tiered lobbies, which both divided the ranked userbase.

This idea divides the userbase along the lines of ranked and unranked, two playerbases who aren't likely to intermingle much in the first place.

While I realize that you only mentioned this to troll and I have no choice but to take the bait to defend my idea, comparing this idea to any former attempts at splitting the lobbies is vacuous and shows a lack of comprehension.

This idea is to move the unranked games that are played in the current main lobby to the current sandbox lobby, and to remove the unranked games required to play ranked games.

deletedover 8 years

an innovative and cutting edge idea would be to create a lobby specially for these so called "mafia-purists", the elite of the elite in the game of mafia.

deletedover 8 years

Right now whether or not a game fills isn't based on whether it can get enough people but whether it can get enough people within about 4 minutes.

deletedover 8 years

perhaps there should be a lobby exclusive to competitive mafia

bernin

over 8 years

I said this years ago. Would be better for both lobbies.

deletedover 8 years

Connor says

all the basics of ccing cop day 1

Yeah. Games of classic are decided D1 based on the cop ccs...

What would you suggest Connor? Just keep circlejerking until EM eventually becomes a chatroom?

Clair

over 8 years

all the basics of ccing cop day 1

deletedover 8 years

Anthony says

I think first we have to fix the mentality that new players need to start somewhere, and that users should be teaching how to play instead of punishing new players for trying to learn.

I made a topic before about no one playing classic. Chances are if someone finds this site by googling "online mafia", classic mafia is the version they're used to. So when they get psyched about an online version and see FP, and not the version of it they searched for, they're just going to leave because this is not the game they searched for. FP = shh d1, nl, wait until D2. It's a game to play while you're doing something else.

FP should be banned, main lobby should be a classic only lobby as classic teaches practically all of the basics of mafia.

deletedover 8 years

expose says

alternatively display 25 tables instead of 12

This is another solution, and should be implemented along with removing the unranked requirements and removing unranked games from main lobby.

If moonman got these kinds of things implemented, they'd definitely be remembered as the greatest admins ever.

expose

over 8 years

alternatively display 25 tables instead of 12

deletedover 8 years

cub says

Saiyan says

enormous playerbase

i thought we were talking about epicmafia

Compared to what the playerbase of main lobby unranked games is like now.

cub

over 8 years

Saiyan says

enormous playerbase

i thought we were talking about epicmafia

deletedover 8 years

Germatron says

the playerbase isnt split between ranked and unranked. its split between main and sandbox

This is downright untrue. Players like me and many others are never going to join your unranked games, and you are competing with us for attention in the same lobby when you host those unranked games.

deletedover 8 years

enormous playerbase?

deletedover 8 years

Germatron says

except the vast majority of minesweeper players are ranked/comp players who happen to see it when it's made in the lobby theyre already looking in

Right, and I think when you host those games in the unranked lobby they will fill with no problem whatsoever, faster than they do now even, due to the enormous playerbase and the random, incoherent nature of every single unranked setup, which aren't very different.

cub

over 8 years

sandbox? change?

you better get used to 12p closed role punk

deletedover 8 years

the playerbase isnt split between ranked and unranked. its split between main and sandbox

deletedover 8 years

or atleast the minesweeper players I would actually want to play that setup with

deletedover 8 years

except the vast majority of minesweeper players are ranked/comp players who happen to see it when it's made in the lobby theyre already looking in

deletedover 8 years

Germatron says

saiyan, you might be right, but Im still not seeing a reason to remove unranked from main, only a reason to remove the requirement

Because it's to the benefit of absolutely everyone.

You think you are opposed to it because you think it will be harder to get a game of the unranked setups you actually like.

In actuality, it will be easier because you'll have the playerbases from both sandbox and unranked games, which I imagine would interchange quite often in the same lobby, believe it or not.

There is no con to separating unranked and ranked games, in my opinion.

deletedover 8 years

I mean, yes setups get pushed to page 2 all the time, but not because of unranked...

deletedover 8 years

when does that ever happen?

pereking

over 8 years

Saiyan says

The problem is less that there aren't enough people to fill comp games and more that sometimes 5 unranked games of classic mafia are made above your game within 20 seconds of making it, forcing you to remake over and over, losing players who had joined already every time.