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PAM AND ANNAJANE SHOULD BE DEMODDED

over 8 years

PER INFORMATION FOUND IN THIS THREAD:
https://epicmafia.com/topic/76875

BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE MUST EXPLORE WHY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

  1. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MODS AND THE COMMUNITY IS ONE BUILT UPON TRUST. - MUCH LIKE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY ARE TASKED WITH KEEPING SAFE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MUTUAL TRUST BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES.
  2. THE COMMUNITY IS HOSTILE TOWARDS THE MODS. TYING IN WITH #1, THE COMMUNITY IS LARGELY HOSTILE TOWARDS THE MOD TEAM AS A WHOLE. THIS IS MOSTLY DUE TO THE ABUSES OF THE PREVIOUS MOD TEAM, AND REFLECTS UNFAIRLY ON MOST OF THE CURRENT MODS AS A WHOLE. HOWEVER THIS SIMPLY UNDERLINES HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO RE-ESTABLISH LOST TRUST.

  3. THE COMMUNITY RELIES ON MODERATORS TO BE IMPARTIAL, FAIR, AND TO UPHOLD THE RULES TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES. THIS IS ALREADY DIFFICULT TO DO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY. REGARDLESS, THE COMMUNITY RELIES ON THE MOD TEAM TO FACILITATE A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL. THE REASON PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LEAVE COMMUNITIES IS WHEN THE PEOPLE TASKED WITH PROTECTING THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE IT TOXIC.

WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE RECENT BACKLASH AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS WHO ABUSE THEIR POWER BECAUSE THEY NEED NOT ANSWER FOR IT. THIS IS A STANDARD WE NEED TO AVOID.


SO WHY SHOULD WE DEMOD ANNAJANE AND SIMPLYPAM?
ASIDE FROM THE FACTS LINKED AT THE TOP OF THE OP, LET'S REVIEW THE FACTS.

  1. IT HAS BEEN CLEARLY ESTABLISHED BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT ANNAJANE AND SIMPLY PAM HAVE BEEN CAUGHT ABUSING THEIR MOD POWER. HOWEVER, THIS ISN'T REASON ENOUGH TO DEMOD SOMEONE. SOMETIMES MODS MAKE MISTAKES, EVERYONE LOSES THEIR COOL AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER. THEN WHY IS WALRUS ADVOCATING FOR THE DEMODDING OF THESE TWO CORRUPT MODS?

  2. ANNAJANE AND SIMPLYPAM HAVE BEEN CAUGHT COLLUDING TO GIVE VIOLATIONS TO PEOPLE THEY DON'T LIKE. - PROVED IN THE THREAD LINKED AT THE TOP. THIS IS EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC, AS IT IS AKIN TO A POLICE OFFICER ARRESTING A PERSON THEY DON'T LIKE ON A BOGUS CHARGE, AND A JUDGE COLLUDING WITH THAT POLICE OFFICER TO GIVE THEM THAT VIOLATION. THIS IS DOWNRIGHT DISGUSTING; IT BETRAYS THE TRUST THE COMMUNITY HAS IN THE MOD TEAM, AND DESTROYS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE REPORTS THESE SPECIFIC MODERATORS HANDLE AND THE VERDICTS OF THE MODERATOR TEAM HANDLES IN GENERAL.

  3. WE NEED TO SET AN EXAMPLE AND A STANDARD. SIMPLY GIVING PAM AND ANNAJANE A SLAP ON THE WRIST SERVES ONLY TO FURTHER ALIENATE THE MOD TEAM FROM THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE SENT A SIGNAL THAT THEY HAVE THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTERESTS AT HEART, AND PEOPLE WHO THREATEN TO UNDERMINE THAT COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. WORDS NEED TO BE BACKED BY ACTIONS.

  4. ALLOWING PAM AND ANNA TO WALK AWAY SCOTT FREE SETS A BAD PRECEDENT FOR WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE. EVEN IF THEY "GET A WARNING", THEY HAVEN'T SUFFERED ANY TANGIBLE CONSEQUENCES. THEY DON'T CARE, AND THEY GET THE SMUG SATISFACTION THAT THEY GOT TO ABUSE THEIR POWER ON SOMEONE THEY DIDN'T LIKE. FURTHERMORE, IF WALRUS HADN'T RAISED A CRAPSTORM, WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE EVEN BEEN CAUGHT. WE'VE SEEN COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF MODS GETTING AWAY WITH ABUSING THEIR POWER IN THE PAST.

WE THE COMMUNITY SIMPLY CANNOT STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF ABUSE TO WALK AWAY SCOTT FREE. WE HAVE EMPIRICAL EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITIES DYING BECAUSE THOSE ESTABLISHED IN POWER PLACED THEMSELVES ABOVE THE RULES WHICH THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO ENFORCE. PAM AND ANNA MUST BE DEMODDED FOR THE MOD TEAM TO RESTORE ANY SEMBLANCE OF LEGITIMACY TO ITS NAME AND THE RULES WHICH IT GOVERNS.

F R E E | E P I C | M A F I A

over 8 years
im just kidding simplypam is great and kind
over 8 years
simplypam promised me i could be her mentor and she lied so she is the worst. and i stand by this statement.
over 8 years
let me reiterate, simplypam is the WORST
deletedover 8 years

Germatron says

everyone in this thread is wrong

yes, the violation was removed, but pam/aj kind of more than just messed up. this was abuse. so acting like a thread is completely unwarranted because the vio no longer exists, kind of ignores the point of the thread

but with that said, I think they realize what they did, and it's not that big of a deal


If everyone in this thread is wrong then that means you're wrong.

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deletedover 8 years
everyone in this thread is wrong

yes, the violation was removed, but pam/aj more than kind of messed up. this is borderline mod abuse. so acting like a thread is completely unwarranted because the vio no longer exists, kind of ignores the point of the thread

but with that said, I think they realize what they did was wrong, and it's not that big of a deal
over 8 years
im not joking!!!
over 8 years
i agree demod pamela, especially, because she is the absolute worst.
over 8 years

Impoetic says

your sense of humor is worse than my little brother's. At least some of his overextended jokes have punchlines.




THERE IS NO HUMOR TO BE FOUND IN MY WORDS, AND I PITY THOSE WHO SEEK IT.
over 8 years
your sense of humor is worse than my little brother's. At least some of his overextended jokes have punchlines.
over 8 years

BearGuru says

Your violation was deleted. There is no reason for you to make threads like this anymore.




FALSE. I HAVE A DUTY TO THE COMMUNITY WHICH I AM A PART OF.

IF A POLICE OFFICER IN MY COMMUNITY IS ABUSING HIS POWER, I HAVE A DUTY TO REPORT THAT OFFICER AND SEEK FOR THEIR POWER TO BE REMOVED.

JUST BECAUSE MY PERSONAL INJUSTICE WAS RECTIFIED DOESN'T MEAN THINGS ARE "ALL BETTER"; THOSE WHO PERPETUATE THESE TOXIC ABUSES ARE STILL IN POWER.

WE CANNOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE REMOVED FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
over 8 years

mist says

i didn't read any of that but i can guarantee you're subjectively wrong.

over 8 years
this is an outrage.
over 8 years
Your violation was deleted. There is no reason for you to make threads like this anymore.
over 8 years

justrec says

if im modded, i promise to bring JUSTICE to epicmafia, and i will work from the INSIDE to make sure these two DEVIANTS are demodded.




J U S T R E C F O R M O D
over 8 years
if im modded, i promise to bring JUSTICE to epicmafia, and i will work from the INSIDE to make sure these two DEVIANTS are demodded.
over 8 years

BearGuru says


WildWalrus says


BigBadBoy says

All that Pam did was report you. She didn't kick you / log you out / give you the violation for LC.




IT WAS COLLUDED WITH ANNAJANE. THE PICTURES ALSO PROVE THAT.


mods working together. Stunning.



MODS COLLUDING TO GIVE VIOLATIONS TO PEOPLE THEY DISLIKE IS DISGUSTING. THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR NEEDS TO BE BANNED, AND THE THOSE WHO WOULD PERPETUATE IT BE PURGED.
over 8 years
demod them both
over 8 years

WildWalrus says


BigBadBoy says

All that Pam did was report you. She didn't kick you / log you out / give you the violation for LC.




IT WAS COLLUDED WITH ANNAJANE. THE PICTURES ALSO PROVE THAT.


mods working together. Stunning.
over 8 years

BigBadBoy says

All that Pam did was report you. She didn't kick you / log you out / give you the violation for LC.




IT WAS COLLUDED WITH ANNAJANE. THE PICTURES ALSO PROVE THAT.
over 8 years
M O D W A L R U S.
deletedover 8 years
All that Pam did was report you. She didn't kick you / log you out / give you the violation for LC.
deletedover 8 years
i didn't read any of that but i can guarantee you're subjectively wrong.
over 8 years
For all we know walrus confessed to a murder in the OP but we all skipped past it to the comments
over 8 years

BigBadBoy says

The violation was removed. Give it a rest.




NO REST UNTIL JUSTICE IS SERVED.
over 8 years
This is how Harry got adminned tbh