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new rule is bad

Burial
almost 9 years

https://epicmafia.com/game/4650359/review here is an example of mafia abusing the new rule to kill a clear, they were not in autolose.

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Giga13 says

fwiw if we can't reach a compromise here I'd be down for removing the meteor, it'd make mafia more fun and less mechanically-oriented in those situations, you can get reads or tells from things such as killing inside or outside or nking or saving etc


then we will be able to extend games to 5 hours and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it
Onuzq
almost 9 years

Giga13 says

fwiw if we can't reach a compromise here I'd be down for removing the meteor, it'd make mafia more fun and less mechanically-oriented in those situations, you can get reads or tells from things such as killing inside or outside or nking or saving etc


This site plays the most mechanical setups that I've ever seen.
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Giga13 says


charIey says


Giga13 says


charley says

Can we all stop crying about a new rule. When ya'll are good enough to be admin you can do something about it.


OK


you edited that from "shut up" i seen you


point a guy out for choosing to be polite, thanks! i like that


sorry buddy
ling
almost 9 years
the new rule is bad
justrec
almost 9 years

Devante says

in other news, another mass shooting in the US

but... 2nd amendment rights and what not


Don't even get into the gun debate thing cause you don't know what you're talking about on that front. What you need to be doing is convincing best friend togepi to get this abysmal rule changed
Giga13
almost 9 years

charIey says


Giga13 says


charley says

Can we all stop crying about a new rule. When ya'll are good enough to be admin you can do something about it.


OK


you edited that from "shut up" i seen you


point a guy out for choosing to be polite, thanks! i like that
pIuto
almost 9 years

Giga13 says


charley says

Can we all stop crying about a new rule. When ya'll are good enough to be admin you can do something about it.


OK


you edited that from "shut up" i seen you
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lügenpresse

hang the admins
Giga13
almost 9 years
Also, no one would gain an advantage from a doc save other than the town having the clear, mafia wouldn't have to take a penalty for it (and as the way it stands now, town wouldn't have to take a penalty either......)
Giga13
almost 9 years
fwiw if we can't reach a compromise here I'd be down for removing the meteor, it'd make mafia more fun and less mechanically-oriented in those situations, you can get reads or tells from things such as killing inside or outside or nking or saving etc
Giga13
almost 9 years

charley says

Can we all stop crying about a new rule. When ya'll are good enough to be admin you can do something about it.


OK
Giga13
almost 9 years

Tucker says


Giga13 says

yes. so how come you guys made a rule that allows mafia to gain an advantage when before, they were the ones compromising and everything was fine and there were no complaints


You can't compare it to before because town never NL'd at 4-way.

Or 6-way. Or any MYLO unless they had a useful investigative role.


well it was on town to lynch back then UNLESS mafia hit into a save (then they would go for doc).

if they just kept hitting the save then the save and doc would claim and the game would change from there as there would be doc ccs with the possibility of one or two (different) saves.

That was ok. Which is why I'm ok with the meteor being removed. But since we have a meteor, town should not have to pay for guessing who mafia's kill target would be. Mafia should have to kill outside. We cannot make the town have their doctor claim. We cannot force the town to make a play when it is the mafia who are at the disadvantage from having their kill saved.

The meteor being removed altogether would solve a lot of problems however and would rebalance some things too. I never considered this possible because I never thought lucid would do it.
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Can we all stop crying about a new rule. When ya'll are good enough to be admin you can do something about it.
Giga13
almost 9 years

Fam says


Giga13 says

yes. so how come you guys made a rule that allows mafia to gain an advantage when before, they were the ones compromising and everything was fine and there were no complaints


If you don't like the new role, just stop playing : ^)


lol
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Giga13 says

yes. so how come you guys made a rule that allows mafia to gain an advantage when before, they were the ones compromising and everything was fine and there were no complaints


You can't compare it to before because town never NL'd at 4-way.

Or 6-way. Or any MYLO unless they had a useful investigative role.
Anthony
almost 9 years
There's nothing wrong with saying "this is how the rules are now " just know that you're wrong
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Giga13 says

yes. so how come you guys made a rule that allows mafia to gain an advantage when before, they were the ones compromising and everything was fine and there were no complaints


If you don't like the new role, just stop playing : ^)
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Devante says

Like I said before I was a mod, while I was a mod and now, still as a mod


Mafia killing clear on meteor night = game continuing

doctor saving on meteor night = game ending.


if you don't want mafia to kill your clear on meteor night lynch them before it goes to meteor night.


dumb
Giga13
almost 9 years
yes. so how come you guys made a rule that allows mafia to gain an advantage when before, they were the ones compromising and everything was fine and there were no complaints
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They wouldn't go on forever because mafia never killed into eternity.
Giga13
almost 9 years
just... wow.

i'm very disappointed.

the meteor works. you guys just aren't using it properly. before the meteor, games wouldn't go forever. they would just end with both sides losing at a random point which was even worse. before that? well i don't know i wasn't around.

games going on forever actually wouldn't be a bad thing though, it would force a side to do something without wasting the heart
Giga13
almost 9 years

Tucker says


Giga says

the only time you should be allowed to force a meteor as mafia is when you are in autoloss, imo. i mean that's how the meteor is intended :)


The meteor is a bad (re: terrible) mechanic that should've never been implemented and I've contacted lucid multiple times about having it removed.

It was initially put in place to prevent Mafia from indefinitely NK'ing.

For now, either play with the rule that's set in place, or don't play.


wow....
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Giga says

the only time you should be allowed to force a meteor as mafia is when you are in autoloss, imo. i mean that's how the meteor is intended :)


The meteor is a bad (re: terrible) mechanic that should've never been implemented and I've contacted lucid multiple times about having it removed.

It was initially put in place to prevent Mafia from indefinitely NK'ing.

For now, either play with the rule that's set in place, or don't play.
Devante
almost 9 years

roadman says


Devante says

in other news, another mass shooting in the US

but... 2nd amendment rights and what not


Blacklist A&D.


already done bruh :)
Giga
almost 9 years
the only time you should be allowed to force a meteor as mafia is when you are in autoloss, imo. i mean that's how the meteor is intended :)