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new rule is bad

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https://epicmafia.com/game/4650359/review here is an example of mafia abusing the new rule to kill a clear, they were not in autolose.

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lol i just read the petition title

"shut up admins you are bad"

lmao
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Devante says

in other news, another mass shooting in the US

but... 2nd amendment rights and what not


Blacklist A&D.
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in other news, another mass shooting in the US

but... 2nd amendment rights and what not
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caroline says

demod devante


also de-mentor one of his accounts and make me a mentor in his place
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roadman says

I don't think anyone can really blame anyone else if a meteor hits the planet. I think we should just draw a close on this whole argument.


well what if its a man-made meteor hitting the planet
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demod devante
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I don't think anyone can really blame anyone else if a meteor hits the planet. I think we should just draw a close on this whole argument.
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roadman says



Put this in the OP.


Lmfao
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Devante says

the correct solution btw would be not giving anyone a violation because the mafia, by trying to kill a clear are not playing against their win condition and you could somewhat argue that the doc isn't, though the doctor argument is a lot weaker on the meteor night


if you want to push for it to not be violated at all that's fine, but then when abc finds that out he'll just troll games whenever he rolls both doc and mafia, which is why it's like that


this is already covered by an existing rule against multiaccounting
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mafia are willingly unranking the game because they can't get their way because their play wasn't satisfactory enough in the long run, and mods say "i'll allow it"
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I abused the rule last night too. It was fun.

It's just exploitation. Plain and simple.
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i just read that game and MAN thats stupid. really, really stupid rule. it is mafia's fault for getting themselves in that situation. Your fault doc is alive to save. doc is just doing his job, and if mafia lose because they can't kill the person they need to kill, tough s***. i don't even know what was going through your brains when this rule was made. trash.
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Giga says

Is there a refund if Doc saves their save on meteor night? (cc: admins)

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he's saying they're making it a vio for doc so that they are allowed to give a vio at all to stop people from doing this and getting away with game throwing

he strongly believes mafia should be able to kill a clear without docs interruption because to do otherwise would make mafia play 'sub optimally'

the only thing i argue is that these setups we play were probably made with the thought of doc being able to save ALL clears, not just investigative roles. thats why this is "breaking" setups, because the balance of roles selected in the game were thought in place for doc to be able to protect if he wanted to
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Anthony says


Devante says

the correct solution btw would be not giving anyone a violation because the mafia, by trying to kill a clear are not playing against their win condition and you could somewhat argue that the doc isn't, though the doctor argument is a lot weaker on the meteor night


if you want to push for it to not be violated at all that's fine, but then when abc finds that out he'll just troll games whenever he rolls both doc and mafia, which is why it's like that


so when someone does this, it can't be refunded if no one gets a vio. So the one rule follower who got n1d got gipped out of a heart because no one gets a vio? How does that make sense


mhm
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Put this in the OP.
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Devante says

the correct solution btw would be not giving anyone a violation because the mafia, by trying to kill a clear are not playing against their win condition and you could somewhat argue that the doc isn't, though the doctor argument is a lot weaker on the meteor night


if you want to push for it to not be violated at all that's fine, but then when abc finds that out he'll just troll games whenever he rolls both doc and mafia, which is why it's like that


so when someone does this, it can't be refunded if no one gets a vio. So the one rule follower who got n1d got gipped out of a heart because no one gets a vio? How does that make sense
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Giga13 says


Devante says

the correct solution btw would be not giving anyone a violation because the mafia, by trying to kill a clear are not playing against their win condition and you could somewhat argue that the doc isn't, though the doctor argument is a lot weaker on the meteor night


if you want to push for it to not be violated at all that's fine, but then when abc finds that out he'll just troll games whenever he rolls both doc and mafia, which is why it's like that


bending a rule for one banned user is an awful decision.


abc was an exmaple, considering there's still rednose, ferhunde and a bunch of other idiots pretending to be them, obviously abc is not the only reason looking at how many banned users I banned for gamethrowing in just a month of moderating
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Devante says

the correct solution btw would be not giving anyone a violation because the mafia, by trying to kill a clear are not playing against their win condition and you could somewhat argue that the doc isn't, though the doctor argument is a lot weaker on the meteor night


if you want to push for it to not be violated at all that's fine, but then when abc finds that out he'll just troll games whenever he rolls both doc and mafia, which is why it's like that


bending a rule for one banned user is an awful decision.
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mafia was just fine without this dumb rule.
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the correct solution btw would be not giving anyone a violation because the mafia, by trying to kill a clear are not playing against their win condition and you could somewhat argue that the doc isn't, though the doctor argument is a lot weaker on the meteor night


if you want to push for it to not be violated at all that's fine, but then when abc finds that out he'll just troll games whenever he rolls both doc and mafia, which is why it's like that
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Crooks says

giga how did you just post twice. are you a wizard


yes.
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giga how did you just post twice. are you a wizard
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justrec says

who cares is a legitimate response if it didn't interfere with my mafia games.


well yes. but "who cares" when a lot of people clearly care isn't productive at all
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who cares is a legitimate response if it didn't interfere with my mafia games. stuff like this si the only instance where i care about site politics, cause you're doing it wrong