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new rule is bad

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https://epicmafia.com/game/4650359/review here is an example of mafia abusing the new rule to kill a clear, they were not in autolose.

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Giga13 says

Alright since togepi and jeff are gone it's time for this to go back to how it was, thanks admins


You don't get to take this condescending tone after failing to comprehend meta abuse over 2 consecutive rounds.
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Devante says

it's towns job to stop the bad mafia, not mafia to play to help town stop them, the bad guys.

stop complaining about having one more unclear in the game, instead find the mafia. the rule isn't changing no matter how many threads with the same title you make


See this post is a symptom of allowing people to join games and afk until the game mechanics force a resolution. There's no reason to allow a broken mechanic (meteor) define how sheep afk in the game.

There's literally no setup in which mafia can not kill a PR over consecutive nights and have a favorable resolution, however you're allowing the excuse of them using the meteor to enable them kill a PR for free.
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If you want to keep the new rule, make all the setups with doc that were made when the rule was different not playable in main

(among them, fancy pants too)

so that they can't be broken (like shown in the OP)

and create new setups that follow this rule.

Otherwise, reverse the rule to NORMALITY. It's just common sense, guys!
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Alright since togepi and jeff are gone it's time for this to go back to how it was, thanks admins
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Yfw they have statistically unbalanced unanimous favourites for no logical reason other than letting devante and pranay by proxy convince them it was infact logical.

Remove meteor.
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stock photos
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its the doctors shiteating grin
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what picture?
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LOL man that picture kills me now for some reason
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The other point to be made is on this setup specifically the optimal orc play is to orc a townread. This ensures always a 50/50 end day. By changing that day three should in most cases be a no clear final day phase. Youve taken away the towns ability to play optimally and forced them into a statistically known disadvtange for no logical reason.
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Burial says

many many setups on this website require the doctor to be able to stop confirmed town from dying.

if it is now against the rules to stop confirmed town from dying then you have broken the majority of serious setups


that part
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We already had a good rule in place. Mafia can hit until meteor if autoloss for them. It worked well. Mods must just be tired of refunding because its such a hard job...
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many many setups on this website require the doctor to be able to stop confirmed town from dying.

if it is now against the rules to stop confirmed town from dying then you have broken the majority of serious setups
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i think its time you guys swallow your pride and get rid of this dumb rule
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YOU HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE DOCTORS POWER. THIS ROLE IS OBSOLETE NOW. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ONE OF MAFIAS MOST IMPORTANT ROLES?

And why on earth are you listening to pranay when it comes to established game mechanics?
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53 signed vs the 8 or so players who made the decision. lol
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this is an abomination
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i'm sure connor or pranay will be interesting in replying to you & saying the same thing, that being if town wants to stop mafia they can lynch mafia. mafia can play however they want considering their action on the meteor night is to kill, and they can kill, since killing continues the game and saving doesn't.
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telling players they're not allowed to hit the person they know will be saved on meteor is better than telling the players they're not allowed to save
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Peta says

Wait a minute, is there now a rule dictating which players protective roles are allowed to save in a certain situation?

Hahahahahahahahaha.


agreed, because telling players they're allowed to save and ending the game is better than telling the player they're not allowed to save ad end the game.
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quite frankly, if maymay disagrees with the new rule then I am more confident than ever that is infact the correct decision
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Hibiki says


trolleyz says

you want someone to die who isn't clear


the point is that the doctor doesn't get to choose who dies, because the doctor isn't the one with the kill power


pranay is saying this though: why does doc even want to save when the point of NLing is for the maf to kill and lessen the odds ("> you want someone to die, so why would you save?"). i'm telling him that sense of thinking is dumb - if theres a clear the doc/town doesn't want it to die in most cases
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Can I sign via alt?
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what is/was the new rule
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trolleyz says

you want someone to die who isn't clear


the point is that the doctor doesn't get to choose who dies, because the doctor isn't the one with the kill power