They are absolutely blank about it. Any person is not allowed to force nl on meteor day if lynching gives them a chance to win. Because NL= confirmed loss. This moderator does not understand the simple thing that he can't know for sure if the person being voted was town. If he wanted to lynch the other guy he should have convinced the other person to vote his way. He is not allowed to force NL and confirm the loss for both parties. Else town will just force NL by saying that 2 different people have 2 different fos. This was clearly resolved by the earlier by each admin. How could you let the new moderators handle this without him knowing the rules.
Just clarify if the moderators judgement is correct or not. If it is then you know what is allowed. It literally means that players are allowed to split votes on MYLO in a meteor.
What if the person getting lynched was mafia? This new moderator just looks at it from a rookie point of view. He is being biased towards the town win scenario. Since the person being voted was town he is saying he was allowed to force NL. He should look at it from a neutral point of view and should judge without knowing what alignment was being lynched.
Question is, what intent do the people have for forcing a nl.
I find it hard to believe that town forcing a nl thinks that somehow town will win by doing so. That's why people get the violation for it and rightfully so.
the whole problem with meteor rules comes from the "Gamethrowing requires intent" clause because nine times out of ten, the person who "threw" just didn't understand the meteor mechanics. But they end up getting slapped with GT vios anyway because someone needs to be vio'd for there to be a refund and people want their damn refunds.
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Giga is correct if he hammered his town read at least there was a chance rather than nothing.
The game in the report didn't end in a meteor but if the situation Mellifluous was talking about was in that game then he is correct; it would be Gamethrowing if the person who forced NL knew what they were doing
Bascially, you are faced with 2 choices
1. Force NL and lose 2. Do not force NL, lynch someone, and have at least a chance at winning
Picking 1 throws away any chance you have at winning. This will never get refunded.
2 is the only feasible option since it gives you a chance to win. If your choices are literally Lose (1) or have a chance at winning (2), picking Lose (1) is Gamethrowing, if the intent is to force NL.
Gamethrowing however, requires intent. But a Note would be the least thing I'd give because people should know that this isn't right. I don't expect everyone to however, but what I'm saying can't be argued against
I improve myself. 'corrupt' stopped being fun when I learnt "more corrupt" is not a legit english phrase, a thing is corrupt or not, so it cant be more corrupt. Since mod teams gets worse and worse every day, I cant use corrupt anymore. :(
As much as I don't like agreeing with NeverMaf, he's a little right. The rules for meteors have never been "clear" in any sense of the word and have always been handled as case by case scenarios. We don't do them "when we want and don't want to" though.
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
Thank you very much for your positive and constructive input Sinek8, I'm sure an attitude like that would lure any modteam to your side and make them welcome you with open arms.
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deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
I saw Sinek had posted and thought "Damn, I bet it's 'the mods are corrupt'".
its also funny that you think that meteor rules have been "clear". they have never been clear because mods refund meteors when they want and do not refund when they do not want.
this has been discussed for years and years, and moderators still do not understand this, why would they start understand it now? Melli stop wasting your time. Meteor system on epicmafia is broken
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