They are absolutely blank about it. Any person is not allowed to force nl on meteor day if lynching gives them a chance to win. Because NL= confirmed loss. This moderator does not understand the simple thing that he can't know for sure if the person being voted was town. If he wanted to lynch the other guy he should have convinced the other person to vote his way. He is not allowed to force NL and confirm the loss for both parties. Else town will just force NL by saying that 2 different people have 2 different fos. This was clearly resolved by the earlier by each admin. How could you let the new moderators handle this without him knowing the rules.
Just clarify if the moderators judgement is correct or not. If it is then you know what is allowed. It literally means that players are allowed to split votes on MYLO in a meteor.
What if the person getting lynched was mafia? This new moderator just looks at it from a rookie point of view. He is being biased towards the town win scenario. Since the person being voted was town he is saying he was allowed to force NL. He should look at it from a neutral point of view and should judge without knowing what alignment was being lynched.
It is not about what sucks. It is about a player who knows the meteor rules very well and still forces it. I suspected he was throwing for or against someone.
Doesn't matter, if they both voted at the same time after kicks it could very well be ruled as an accident and there objectively isn't enough evidence to rule that possibility out
Well there's no way to tell what time the votes occurred at (wish there was a timestamp for votes and actions) but if there was ample time for curryeggroll to make a choice then he threw.
The intent was clear. This should be a gt vio instead of a note because the person knew about the meteor very well and he NLd 3 days in a row to reach the meteor day.
I would, ideally, like everyone to know what is allowed and what isn't but not everyone does therefore intent is the determining factor more often than not
yeah, the intent is why it's different. a doc can argue that he thinks by not saving, he'd be playing against his win condition by letting a clear die. think of comparing doc saving on a meteor night to doc saving on a non meteor night - they are completely different scenarios that some people find hard to understand thus the intent is not as obvious. Then compare this to the day action of forcing a meteor, there's no possible explanation someone can have for not playing against their win condition when doing so. thus I think day time meteors should always be treated as intent game throw, while doc forcing meteor at night is not always intentful (not arguing that it shouldn't be a gt vio for doing it but just that there's a difference)
I like how Nicole said the guy being reported was justified in his action of forcing meteor, when the guy being reported died day 1 and meteor was not forced in the game lol
whether you think they should be allowed to or not, there's no case for saying "everyone who flips doctor and saves on meteor night has intent to throw the game"
yeah, mafia being allowed to keep going for the confirmed clear when town have gained the advantage is stupid because then why is doc even a role
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this is dumb. if you're doc and mafia keeps trying to hit the cop nightly, it'd be playing against your own wc by not saving. mafia can just kill someone else if they didn't want to force meteor and throw the game
This depends if doc is counter claimed or not. If you are counter claimed just let a clear die, if you are not counter claimed you should save.
If mafia kill the doc then they have a cc the next day in blue. If mafia kill a blue they just counter claim the doc. Doc saving someone when mafia keeps on hitting the same person shouldn't be considered game throwing by the doc. It was the mafia forcing meteor in that case.
This should be considered by a case of who the mafia can kill while not putting themselves into autoloss. Not the fact that they want to kill a clear for mechanical sh*ts and giggles.
that's a different case I agree, the intent is not as easy to see, and usually doesn't even make sense. Forcing a meteor in the day is a lot different to forcing a meteor at night.
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