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I would like to have a thought provoking and civil conversation about ISIS.....what you think will stop them, what will make it worse. Please make this a civil and appropriate discussion. i am looking for a good conversation not a flame war.

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Peta says


Rondar says

I think the whole "is it real Islam?" debate is pretty stupid because the question implies Islam is a singly defined set of morals, instead of a shitton of denomination with varying degrees of... everything.


This more or less aligns with what I and probably Grannie are saying.


Nah Grannie is totally on the "this is the true form of Islam" side, from what I've read, which implies again that there's only one Islam. But I haven't read everything they've said so I may be wrong.
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Peta says


Peta says


Rondar says

I think the whole "is it real Islam?" debate is pretty stupid because the question implies Islam is a singly defined set of morals, instead of a shitton of denomination with varying degrees of... everything.


This more or less aligns with what I and probably Grannie are saying.


It's also an incredibly unpopular opinion among the current echo chamber of faux liberals who are going along with the anti-"Islamophobic" fad.


Correct.
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I, epicmafia.com user Jackhammer, am a Muslim who seems to have a different definition to Islam than most Muslims around me. Given that I live in Saudi Arabia, I'm not very surprised there.
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Peta says


Rondar says

I think the whole "is it real Islam?" debate is pretty stupid because the question implies Islam is a singly defined set of morals, instead of a shitton of denomination with varying degrees of... everything.


This more or less aligns with what I and probably Grannie are saying.


It's also an incredibly unpopular opinion among the current echo chamber of faux liberals who are going along with the anti-"Islamophobic" fad.
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Hey Jack, I'm fine. Have I finally trembled into the debate zone with you?
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Rondar says

Honestly, it's enough for just a few people to believe in "their Islam"


That's me
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Rondar says

I think the whole "is it real Islam?" debate is pretty stupid because the question implies Islam is a singly defined set of morals, instead of a shitton of denomination with varying degrees of... everything.


This more or less aligns with what I and probably Grannie are saying.
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hi rondar how are you doing dude
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Honestly, it's enough for just a few people to believe in "their Islam" for it suddenly to become viable as a religion.
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Don't get me wrong, I still believe they are truly religiously motivated (I haven't read your debate), but whether or not this religion is the "real Islam" is the question I find stupid.

Checking Muhammed's intentions is just as difficult because of the huge lack of non-Muslim sources describing him (or even acknowledging his existence).
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i have no answer and posting in this thread is making me despair lol
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i dunno what the other side is doing. psychological belittlement too maybe, imagining the threat doesn't span a religion. or maybe they're good guys not wanting genocide
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it's a dumb question. this censor is killing me
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Rondar says

I think the whole "is it real Islam?" debate is pretty stupid because the question implies Islam is a singly defined set of morals, instead of a shitton of denomination with varying degrees of... everything.


p much. it's more so stupid though because the only thing that can come out of it is a question of whether or not to destroy islam which is a question. peta and co. are just poking the muslims from the safety of their computer chairs, deluding themselves as to the threat isis is. psychological belittlement bascially.
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I think the whole "is it real Islam?" debate is pretty stupid because the question implies Islam is a singly defined set of morals, instead of a shitton of denomination with varying degrees of... everything.
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what is ur point
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Whoa ... Just had a brain wave here. Get this: ISIS's decision to adopt slavery, despite projections of the obvious unpopularity of the move, was probably a carefully calculated maneuver by psychopathic masterminds who are merely using Islam as a front, and not a real throwback to the radical barbarism of some medieval Islamic practices.
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peta what if brownpimp killed ur family for slandering muhammad. u need to be thinking of this stuff dude
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would someone else like to venture an opinion? my opinion: sh*t's f*cked
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The leaders and foot soldiers of the Islamic State, who refer to the Quran in a way that fits their violent barbaric ambitions and activities, are probably not interpreting it in a way that Muhammad, who was a violent barbaric warlord, would have hoped!
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Chopping someone's head off while praising Allah? You think they're trying to make a religious statement? Well, heh, all I can say is that you've once again been puppet-mastered by the ISIS media machine ...
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what is ur sensible opinion peta, i'm curious. i saw u say they should be wiped off the face of the earth or something, but seriously?
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we should just blow up the middle east and pretend it never existed
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there isn't really any sensible or at least morally justifiable way of dealing with isis. it's not just islam. it's islam set fire to. and then what can you do against that? these are living life like they're playing a fps video game. and same as all that in israel too. shoot them more and your only feeding their existential madness. smash down this wave and there's another to follow it, grown out of exactly the same destruction as was the last one. i mean see the videos where they have little kids shouting death to america and whatever. what are gonna do, adopt them? or just destroy them to. it's an impossible situation. the only real opinion i have on it is that people shouldn't f*cking draw muhammad. that's retardedly pointless poking the bear